2018-2019 NBA Thread

Muurloen said:

Sources: Rockets get Shumpert in 3-team deal

yay?

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Rockets Trading Stauskas, Baldwin To Pacers

Ahhhh salary dumpage for luxary tax relief. Keep doing what you are doing Morey.

How else is he supposed to get ready to sign Kevin Durant?

Don't think that is gonna happen with CP3's albatross of a contact is still tied around his neck.

I'll repost this, its long, but who knows what they will be willing to spend?

New Rockets owner Tilman Fertitta has James Harden and Chris Paul, but it’s time to put his mark on the team | SB Nation NBA Preview 2018

Too bad that's OKC's first rounder Philly is getting and not Orlando's. Better than the big turd Fultz gave them, I guess.

Chanur said:

The Pelicans are basically done as a franchise with out a ton of draft picks. Once Davis leaves and he will even if it is 2 years from now they are irrelevant.

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And there will be 20+ teams in the NBA that can offer better draft picks in a deal than a Lebron lead Lakers team. The draft picks you get from a Lebron team is damn near worthless.

Yeah, that's probably why there were reports they wanted four first rounders. Since you can only give away a first rounder every other year, that would have carried long past Lebron's time.

Chanur said:

Not every team has a chance or will offer. Teams are not going to give up a bunch of first round picks when they know they have no chance to keep Davis. This is not the NFL. Only a couple teams even have a chance to get Davis. Lakers were one of them.

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Obviously the Pelicans thought it wasn't good enough.

Dead until the Knicks win the lottery and trade Zion to them. That's NO's best hope to jumpstart things. Not like they've been particularly alive while AD has been there anyways.

Pharazon2 said:

Dead until the Knicks win the lottery and trade Zion to them. That's NO's best hope to jumpstart things. Not like they've been particularly alive while AD has been there anyways.

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Knicks are only 14 percent for that, and then there's the rest of the trade to balance salaries and all that shit too. Even if the Knicks get the first pick there's no sure thing. But yeah, of course it was smarter for them to wait and see. The Lakers trade will likely still be there if other people don't step up anyways.

Eh. Lets remember, the last time something like this happened to the Pelicans it was Chris Paul. He wanted out, they weren't going to get much value back. In fact they got a complete shit sandwich, probably worse than what they will get back for AD. Eric Gordon, Chris Kaman, and Aminu. That was 7 years ago, but the very next draft they landed the first pick and got AD. So it worked out fine for them then.

Pelicans (like most small market teams) were fucked before the trade demand and will continually be fucked after hes traded. They are a small market team that cant attract substantive talent to compete with the all star teams that continue to develop.

Combine that with ownership, who wants nothing to do with going over the luxury tax, and you end up with a team thats just a revolving door of talent that has zero chance of ever sniffing the championship.

This why the NFL has the only proven salary cap system that actually allows for complete competitive parity throughout the league. You think Carolina or Arizona would EVER even sniff a Super Bowl appearance if New York, Philadelphia, Dallas, and San Francisco were allowed to just spend whatever they wanted? Those teams would have ZERO issue paying a luxury tax for going over the cap.

Guessing ala Cousins, AD will return to play and suffer an injury - lowering his trade value and fucking us even more.

Watching Eric Gordon half ass it for 4 years then magically turn into everything everyone knew he could be as soon as he landed in Houston is what we are bound to see.

It’s hard to explain how shitty the situation is, because during the Chris Paul years there was a genuine level of excitement and attendance. Something definitely changed.

I think our branding and identity could use a pick me up - but all signs point to a sunk ship.

daly said:

Pelicans (like most small market teams) were fucked before the trade demand and will continually be fucked after hes traded. They are a small market team that cant attract substantive talent to compete with the all star teams that continue to develop.

Combine that with ownership, who wants nothing to do with going over the luxury tax, and you end up with a team thats just a revolving door of talent that has zero chance of ever sniffing the championship.

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Its what the NBA has become but it doesn't mean small market teams can't succeed. The Pelicans are in the same boat as MOST other NBA teams period, not just small market teams, they are not the minority. Most teams have to do well in the draft in order to succeed. Not just in a single year, but they need to draft well (and have some luck) over a 3-5 year span.

See the Spurs. See the Thunder. The Warriors were seen by most fans, more importantly by players, as a small market team until they had a string of draft successes. They were not a location any stars EVER considered signing in FA until that happened.

For those that haven't noticed, its basically been a Lakers / Celtics league since the dawn of time, not an even playing field. It hasn't changed that much. And the hard truth is that parity will not help the NBA sell tickets, so they're not going to make moves in that direction. They tried the supermax contract thing and it hasn't worked that well, but I don't see them trying to do all that much more. NBA free agency is a bigger hype machine than ever, evident as we just finished a two week period around the superbowl where the NBA trade deadline got more attention from the talking heads than the NFL.