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This is fine except ownere are not going to keep being okay with players destroying their franchises. Pelicans have never been a big draw and if they cannot retain their stars they are dead there and will have to move and pray or the NBA will suffer.
 

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This is fine except ownere are not going to keep being okay with players destroying their franchises. .
What?

The Pelicans wanted to sit Davis for the rest of the season to improve their draft stock and decrease the chance of an injury limiting his trade value. They'd prefer to tank than to play AD. Only reason Davis is playing at all after the All Star break is because the dude wants to hoop.

The same thing happens in the NFL, but without guaranteed contracts players have less leverage. NBA is a superstar-driven league with guaranteed contracts. AD is going to get whatever he wants.

Besides AD is hardly destroying the franchise. The team sucks and is going nowhere. Davis wants to win. This isn't 1960. The Pelicans could have convinced him they were a worthwhile franchise, but instead they've proven to be inept and not interested in contending for rings. This is exactly what Free Agency is all about.
 

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Well not playing him probably will hurt already fairly shitty attendance at Pelican games.
 

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What?

The Pelicans wanted to sit Davis for the rest of the season to improve their draft stock and decrease the chance of an injury limiting his trade value. They'd prefer to tank than to play AD. Only reason Davis is playing at all after the All Star break is because the dude wants to hoop.

The same thing happens in the NFL, but without guaranteed contracts players have less leverage. NBA is a superstar-driven league with guaranteed contracts. AD is going to get whatever he wants.

Besides AD is hardly destroying the franchise. The team sucks and is going nowhere. Davis wants to win. This isn't 1960. The Pelicans could have convinced him they were a worthwhile franchise, but instead they've proven to be inept and not interested in contending for rings. This is exactly what Free Agency is all about.
None of this happens in the NFL much because the teams control contracts there to a much larger degree.

Fan attendance is crap and has been for ever for the most part, and its going to get worse when AD leaves , which he will. They are done until they draft someone of AD's caliber again, who will then dump them a couple years later.
 

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None of that is AD's problem or a result of his actions.

The Pels drafted him and got his rights for a number of years when he came into the league. They wasted his talents. He's leaving in free agency.

Davis is not destroying the franchise. Dude is being a professional.
 

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None of that is AD's problem or a result of his actions.

The Pels drafted him and got his rights for a number of years when he came into the league. They wasted his talents. He's leaving in free agency.

Davis is not destroying the franchise. Dude is being a professional.
So that's why he got fined? C'mon dude; he cashed the checks.
Honor your contract. Don't use your agent to try to force the team to take a bad trade to get you on team LAbron. The whole situation was grossly unfair to the NO franchise and fans, as well as the entire Lakers roster (minus the wannabe player/GM)
 

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So that's why he got fined? C'mon dude; he cashed the checks.
Honor your contract. Don't use your agent to try to force the team to take a bad trade to get you on team LAbron. The whole situation was grossly unfair to the NO franchise and fans, as well as the entire Lakers roster (minus the wannabe player/GM)
What?

He got fined because he mentioned the Lakers. He could have left it at "I want to be traded" and have been within the rules. Dude hasn't sowed animosity, disrespected his own way, and doesn't even want to sit games out.

Kyrie wanted out from Cleveland and he got traded. This shit happens all the time in professional sportsball. Just because he stated he wanted to be traded doesn't mean he doesn't intend to honor his contract. He's still hooping for the Pels and giving 100%. Davis isn't pulling a Kawhi Leonard here.

Reality is the dude wasn't going to sign an extension. He could've played coy and said "I don't want to talk about it until Summer 2020" (ala Kyrie Irving right now) and left the team with no leverage or any trade value in return for his departure. He's not obligated to sign with NO until 2060.

How many players got traded, against their wishes, at the deadline? Where's your shit talking to all the clubs who acted "grossly unfair" (to those players, their families, and yes their fans) and didn't "honor [their] contract" to all the players they had signed to deals?

The Pelicans have enough leverage in this situation to say, "We don't care what you want. You're playing in NO for another year and a half," but it's not in their best interest to do that. Fans get more sand in their vaginas than the organizations do because this is a business and this shit happens all the damn time – everyone is out to further their own interests within the confines of the CBA. Davis is playing his hand, the organization are playing theirs, and the fans are just along for the ride.
 

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Sorry, it's the NBA, not the Klutch Sports League. Lebron and AD created an unnecessarily shitty situation for both of their teams with this ham-fisted attempt to get AD on the Lakers now, and not later. F them both.
 

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The Lakers tried to get a 2nd super star (which historically has been easy for that franchise) and when they couldn't get it done, they now have to deal with young players who have never had to deal with "trade rumors" before. Now they are on pace to be the first team ever to have Lebron on their roster and still be a lottery team.
 

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Sorry, it's the NBA, not the Klutch Sports League. Lebron and AD created an unnecessarily shitty situation for both of their teams with this ham-fisted attempt to get AD on the Lakers now, and not later. F them both.
That shit makes no sense. Tons of professional sportsball players make requests to be traded, publicly or privately. Every professional sportsball team engages in trade talks with players under contract with them. It's the business.

AD gave the Pels the professional courtesy of telling them he won't be resigning. If they want to maximize value in their limited time left with his services, they have several options – they can trade him, win some games ideally in the playoffs and sell stadium seats by exciting the fans, or they can sit him on the bench and tank.
 

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The Lakers tried to get a 2nd super star (which historically has been easy for that franchise) and when they couldn't get it done, they now have to deal with young players who have never had to deal with "trade rumors" before. Now they are on pace to be the first team ever to have Lebron on their roster and still be a lottery team.
Lebron missed the playoffs his first two years in the league. Though, I'd say the talent level on those two Cavalier teams was below the Lakers right now.
 

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Professional courtesy? Lol. I hope he gets traded to Boston and Kyrie leaves.
 

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Lebron missed the playoffs his first two years in the league. Though, I'd say the talent level on those two Cavalier teams was below the Lakers right now.
You are quite right. But since 2011, no team with Lebron on the roster has missed playing in the Finals. A fall this far is quite shocking.
 

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I mean it's the first season he's missed significant time due to injury also.
 

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I mean it's the first season he's missed significant time due to injury also.
Yeah, the Lakers record with him in the lineup works out to a playoff worthy team. I'm sure his Heat and later Cavs teams would have been playoff bound without him, but some of those early Cavs teams he got to the playoff would have struggled to get there, imo. Especially back then when he was a more important defensive presence.
 

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More like the Refs are incompetent pieces of shit. They are slowly ruining the game.
 

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My midrange jumper SPurs finally win one after that 4 game slide. 13/21 from 3!