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Ancient Civilizations
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I try to stay out of Chuk's house if I am not going to contribute anything constructive, because us old guys have to stick together. I don't agree with everything that gets posted here, but I can't say definitively that it isn't true either, like I can with UFOs.
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Chukzombi
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i welcome criticism, though just dismissing everything because people think it has something to do with that "alien's did it" tv show on history channel is not really debunking.
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The Frisian legends of their sunken island (too recent to be atlantis) remind me of old writings about Thule who had some limited contact with the Greeks. Apollo supposedly stayed there in the summer, and they would send gifts every year or something.
They were described as being very long lived, and only died when they chose.
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Archaeologists Found an Entirely New Language Among the Ruins of an Ancient Empire
Look for it soon on Duolingo.
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Did Ancient Greeks Reach America Long Before Columbus? - GreekReporter.com
The suggestion that ancient Greeks reached America before Columbus may seem far-fetched, but certain researchers think otherwise
greekreporter.com
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Kharzette
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I had read (or maybe watched) that the Phoenicians were there trading for the copper as well.Did Ancient Greeks Reach America Long Before Columbus? - GreekReporter.com
The suggestion that ancient Greeks reached America before Columbus may seem far-fetched, but certain researchers think otherwisegreekreporter.com
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Chukzombi
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when shoes were built to last.
www.nbcnews.com
Sandals buried in a bat cave in southern Spain may be the oldest footwear ever discovered in Europe, scientists said this week, estimating that they could be up to 6,200 years old.
Neolithic organic based artifacts, including a mallet and sandals, were recovered at the Cueva de los Murciélagos in Andalucia, southern Spain.
The world's oldest shoes? Sandals found in bat cave are thousands of years old, study finds
The sandals are the “earliest and widest-ranging” collection of prehistoric footwear ever found in Europe, a new study said.
www.nbcnews.com
Sandals buried in a bat cave in southern Spain may be the oldest footwear ever discovered in Europe, scientists said this week, estimating that they could be up to 6,200 years old.
Neolithic organic based artifacts, including a mallet and sandals, were recovered at the Cueva de los Murciélagos in Andalucia, southern Spain.
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At this point though, its just so hard to take any of that shit seriously. They even come right and say it like its fact in that article, even though it says they "think" - implying that its not fact. Most archaeologist are school indoctrinated, irrational, left leaning liberals and I wouldnt put it past them at all to say something like this just to get the narrative away from Columbus and/or Vikings. Next thing we know, it'll be an African that was the best ship captain of all time, and the Greeks employed him because he brought all the boats to and from the America's safely and without incident.
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if there was a global trade route, it would be the chongs or the Romans. i tend to go with the Romans, but there is a lot of DNA evidence that supports asians populating the americas earlier than most. maybe not as old as the pre-clovis peoples , but its early.
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The Phoenicians were the big seafarers with the big ships and the maps. They made big money in the bronze age. I've seen theories that they spread the ideas of dragons and sea serpents to keep distant markets to themselves.
It is mostly theories though. I think some phoenician items have been found in the states, but I can't remember where I saw that, probably a Robert S video, so definitely not facts, just bits and pieces. About all you get for 4000 years ago.
The one unexplained thing about bronze age trading is diseases. Could pathogens have evolved so much after the destruction of Carthage until the next major contact from the spaniards?
It is mostly theories though. I think some phoenician items have been found in the states, but I can't remember where I saw that, probably a Robert S video, so definitely not facts, just bits and pieces. About all you get for 4000 years ago.
The one unexplained thing about bronze age trading is diseases. Could pathogens have evolved so much after the destruction of Carthage until the next major contact from the spaniards?
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Disease itself was still evolving at that early of a point in civilization
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Daidraco
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Upon reading this - it sounds retarded. Like, substantially retarded. Can you elaborate?
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Chris
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A lot of new diseases come from people living close to animals in high density (China) and the diseases jumping species.
So a ship from Carthage isn't going to spread plague in the new world because maybe plague hadn't jumped species yet because China isn't a disease ridden shithole yet.
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They are done evolving to the point where there's a disparity between old and new world that kills off the new world. Yes.
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