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Really depends on what they have in the shop.

I don't mind kicking them a couple of dollars for bank space or character slots if its F2P. Buying more crafting time sounds kind of sketchy though especially if there isn't a mechanism in game to do so without paying.

Having a sub option that includes most stuff in the shop, at least game function wise, would be fine. Especially if they have say sub for 6 months and you get all cosmetic things as well as bank space, slots etc.. Lots of interesting ways to do it where they can still make money and its not a TOR thing of "LOL no quest reward for joo unless you pay!"

tad10_sl said:

@Hartman if you're still reading is the cbt4 crafting or the current rng crafting planned for the NA version?

@Kedwyn it's just so annoying I can't believe the entire industry moved to the ftp model. I'll rage quit if a bronze locked chest drops that requires a store bought key to open.

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Oh the whole buy a key to open this chest made me hate F2P more than anything. I mildly disliked it originally , but the first time I ran into that it made me truly want sub only options.

Trollface_sl said:

please don't add dailies.

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Ya jesus can we not wow the shit out of this one ? ( wishful thinking i know ).

tad10_sl said:

Only if we're all planning to go pirate.

Don't fight it. Go Pirate.

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I am in as Pirate.

Dr Mr. Hartsman - you seem like a cool dude. I love your down to earth attitude, and for producing the Kunark expansion in EQ2 (best expansion imo), and would be willing to forgive you for Defiance if you tossed us beta invites for this game. I even knowingly paid for one, and unknowingly paid for a second year sub to Rift. That's got to count right!?!

tad10_sl said:

@Oloh how many leveling dungeons are there? Can't seem to find a source.

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When I played, I think there were 3. One at 20, 30 and 40. I think there has been one content patch since then. This post has actually perked my interest again, so I am going to play through and will update any information that I have posted that may be a bit out of date.

Edit: Also, I think at all stages of the game, crafted gear is the best if its the "good stuff." It was never clear to me on how to get the good stuff, but I think its was just crafting with the best resources and hoping for something akin to a crit with really good stats.

Actually , I think Hartsman wasn't involved with making Defiance and came back after it had launched ?

mkopec_sl said:

Defiance was not bad for a month. I had fun.

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Brave to say that, Defiance was complete, rushed shit.

haha -- We definitely don't want to WoW anything up. We like AA because it's a pretty greatcomplementto the themepark PvE MMOs. It's not one of them, and I don't think it should ever be one. It includes some of those elements, but those elements aren't the focus.

Trade is one of the sandboxy gameplay systems. Ties into the economic and crafting games, and PvP. Kind of like what some of us might recall as Caravans from other game ideas in the past. Creating stuff for trade, taking it from one place to the other (overland via walking, mules, carts, carriages, airships - Overseas via boats, merchant boats, etc), staying safe while doing so, getting rewards for it.

It sinks commodities generated by the crafting/farming game, provides PvP targets, and earns money. It's a skill of its own to raise. ("Commerce.")

I'm reserving opinion on their 1.0 changes until I get a chance to see them in action. We haven't yet seen how much of it is being driven by Play2crush types driving people from the game completely (which, if that happens, also obliterates the fun of even being a play2crush'er, as you have no one left to crush), vs other factors.

Even if those all stood exactly as is, there's still plenty of unique gameplay systems.

I can absolutely understand emotional reaction to changes, but I'd rather see and play it myself then figure out how to think about it.

If you can't throw out any rough estimates of beta for folks starting , anything rough at least on whether it'll be a preorder to get into it or preference given to older Trion/Rift accounts or such ? Just curious as really am glad to hear this thing is on track for an NA release still.