hodj
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Checking out Eternal because you suggested it. Seems neat as well. I think I'm just in a weird "card game mood". Nice to have some options.
Artifact - The DOTA Card Game
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Checking out Eternal because you suggested it. Seems neat as well. I think I'm just in a weird "card game mood". Nice to have some options.
Chimney
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They do a lot of things right, generous f2p model, cross platform etc. Also link your twitch account for like 30+ free packs and there is some alienware promo that gives you a campaign mode for free jekks bounty.
If the game had a little more depth I think I would prefer it over MTGA, but otherwise it's just a nice change of pace that requires minimum spend.
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StoiCynic
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That sounds like a fun deck, I wouldn't mind trying it out if you post the deck list later.
I've had a really hard time getting a red deck to work and I'd love to play a good one
Artifact Deck - Hero Killa
Went 10-2 with this the other night. Plenty of room for improvement, contemplating getting rid of Ironfog Goldmine altogether. Need more Spring the Trap otherwise that would be at least a 2x. Wanna toy with Swapping Sniper for either Sorla or maybe even Bristleback and go 3 Red. Also torn on items, Helm of Dom is only really in there because I only have 1 Horn and wanted to see if it was worth playing over another Blink and/or Vesture. Three Feels kind of unnecessary.
hodj
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Alienware promo is still going on, the Twitch one isn't, and I'm bummed I missed out on that now tbph.
Played about 20 hours so far, a few games in the Call to Arms event but then almost all draft (casual, which is free and phantom, which is 1 ticket to enter - you get 5 with the game).
The game is phenomenal. There is so much depth and strategic thinking -especially in draft, you play cards not the meta. It feels like the opposite of hearthstone where half the time you’re in an autoloss because your draw was poor or you aren’t gaming the meta. You affect the outcome far more in artifact and a win or loss can be snatched away instantly.
The alternate play of cards before combat has really interesting psychology too - things like pass baiting, the order of cards to trick your opponent into wasting an item or spell etc.
The downside is it is incredibly difficult to learn compared with something like hearthstone. It took me a lot of reading/video watching - the in game tutorial leaves you with knowledge of only the most basic mechanics of play. Most people will not get a feel for the game in an hour and I suspect that means the player base will suffer. For those that stick at it, it is by far the best online card game on the market.
The game is phenomenal. There is so much depth and strategic thinking -especially in draft, you play cards not the meta. It feels like the opposite of hearthstone where half the time you’re in an autoloss because your draw was poor or you aren’t gaming the meta. You affect the outcome far more in artifact and a win or loss can be snatched away instantly.
The alternate play of cards before combat has really interesting psychology too - things like pass baiting, the order of cards to trick your opponent into wasting an item or spell etc.
The downside is it is incredibly difficult to learn compared with something like hearthstone. It took me a lot of reading/video watching - the in game tutorial leaves you with knowledge of only the most basic mechanics of play. Most people will not get a feel for the game in an hour and I suspect that means the player base will suffer. For those that stick at it, it is by far the best online card game on the market.
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Being a blatant cash grab at every corner guarantees that it will remain small.
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Delly
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Except you can play the arguably best mode (draft) for free forever. There are plenty of other problems with the model, even the initial buy in is a deterrence, but every corner? Wrong.
Here is a drafting tier list. Pretty helpful. I would read the FAQ just to see the reasoning behind it. DrawTwo
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I don't know if they will but I don't see why they wouldn't do some sort of progression system. Even the well known names are asking that MMR be shown. They could easily do a casual and ranked MMR.
Along with better chat functions, emotes, other rewards (skins, card backs), a complete stat profile of the player, even if it is only visible to the player.
Some of these things should have been done by release. Clearly they worked on a spectate and tournament system, something Blizzard took years to do well (spectate) and something they haven't done at all (tournament). It's just crazy to me that people complain about the money when it's less to own a whole set of Artifact at this point than Hearthstone when there are actual legitimate things to complain about which I've already posted.
Regardless, they have to do something quick or I think we can all agree that they're fucked.
Along with better chat functions, emotes, other rewards (skins, card backs), a complete stat profile of the player, even if it is only visible to the player.
Some of these things should have been done by release. Clearly they worked on a spectate and tournament system, something Blizzard took years to do well (spectate) and something they haven't done at all (tournament). It's just crazy to me that people complain about the money when it's less to own a whole set of Artifact at this point than Hearthstone when there are actual legitimate things to complain about which I've already posted.
Regardless, they have to do something quick or I think we can all agree that they're fucked.
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This game is kind of fun. If not for the free drafting though, I would not be playing it. It does not grab me like I had hoped it would. Given the complexity, I am not sure that I am the target audience for this game.
The graphics, while smooth, are one of the things I think that hurt this game. People are used to colorful, easy to differentiate kind of graphics. Red is,,,,red. Blue is blue. The colors are so solid that it drowns out the artwork. The background is boring and the little dragon is only cute for a while.
I have wondered if a game could be overly complicated. I think this game is pushing the limit of what most players want from an online card game. The complexity is nice but I have a difficult time playing more than 2 games a session because I have to try and out think my opponent for every play. There are many times when all I want to do is relax and play a game not get played by the game.
Time of play is the other problem. Most people do not want to play 20-30 minute individual games all the time. This means a best out of three could take well over an hour of continuous play. I think this will also hurt the game in the end.
The price model without a purpose of play beyond just playing it was also a mistake. Players like to have goals beyond just beating a person for a game. Ranking, alternate art card rewards and a chance to enter large tournaments are just some examples.
So in short, this game has boring graphics in relation to other TCG/CCG. The game play is a little to intensive in complexity and time. The price model they went with is not the friendliest with the features the game currently has save for the free draft.
I really was hoping this game would be fun but I do not want to spend more money on it until a lot more features are added. This game has a long hard road ahead of it, if it thinks to challenge Hearthstone, Magic Arena or Eternal. If it can exist with a very niche group of players, then the game did what it was going to do.
The graphics, while smooth, are one of the things I think that hurt this game. People are used to colorful, easy to differentiate kind of graphics. Red is,,,,red. Blue is blue. The colors are so solid that it drowns out the artwork. The background is boring and the little dragon is only cute for a while.
I have wondered if a game could be overly complicated. I think this game is pushing the limit of what most players want from an online card game. The complexity is nice but I have a difficult time playing more than 2 games a session because I have to try and out think my opponent for every play. There are many times when all I want to do is relax and play a game not get played by the game.
Time of play is the other problem. Most people do not want to play 20-30 minute individual games all the time. This means a best out of three could take well over an hour of continuous play. I think this will also hurt the game in the end.
The price model without a purpose of play beyond just playing it was also a mistake. Players like to have goals beyond just beating a person for a game. Ranking, alternate art card rewards and a chance to enter large tournaments are just some examples.
So in short, this game has boring graphics in relation to other TCG/CCG. The game play is a little to intensive in complexity and time. The price model they went with is not the friendliest with the features the game currently has save for the free draft.
I really was hoping this game would be fun but I do not want to spend more money on it until a lot more features are added. This game has a long hard road ahead of it, if it thinks to challenge Hearthstone, Magic Arena or Eternal. If it can exist with a very niche group of players, then the game did what it was going to do.
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