Ambiturner
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Well there's also no point in a dungeon finder if there aren't any other players
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Well there's also no point in a dungeon finder if there aren't any other players
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Cybsled
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After watching that video, I -really- hope the game's designers have plans in place to account for the flaws in a lot of those systems
1) Corruption system kind of sounds like Lineage II, with corrupted players eventually dropping items. The Chinese RMT guilds in L2 quickly learned ways to exploit that and trick people into PVP and get them to item drop status. Unless they figure out ways to counter that, it will be a shitshow of exploits/shady tactics
2) Node system is too Shadowbane as described. It sounds like there is nothing preventing a mega guild from shitstomping noob tier villages into dust and reseting them to level 0. Shadowbane, and Archeage to a lesser extent, have demonstrated that if people lose most of their shit due to siege stomps, then they quit the game. Too many of their town systems sound PVE focused, but then PVPers can teabag their houses/towns and erase their work. PVEers will quit in droves, then the PVPers will start to get bored and the PVPers will quit once they lose a major siege. It basically becomes a MMO Battle Royale, except the end state is a dead server vs. a victory. And these games most definitely attract griefer/pirate type mentalities that will "play to crush".
3) I hope they are ready to alter the node system in general post-launch. People will quickly figure out the best nodes to level and meta the shit out of that.
1) Corruption system kind of sounds like Lineage II, with corrupted players eventually dropping items. The Chinese RMT guilds in L2 quickly learned ways to exploit that and trick people into PVP and get them to item drop status. Unless they figure out ways to counter that, it will be a shitshow of exploits/shady tactics
2) Node system is too Shadowbane as described. It sounds like there is nothing preventing a mega guild from shitstomping noob tier villages into dust and reseting them to level 0. Shadowbane, and Archeage to a lesser extent, have demonstrated that if people lose most of their shit due to siege stomps, then they quit the game. Too many of their town systems sound PVE focused, but then PVPers can teabag their houses/towns and erase their work. PVEers will quit in droves, then the PVPers will start to get bored and the PVPers will quit once they lose a major siege. It basically becomes a MMO Battle Royale, except the end state is a dead server vs. a victory. And these games most definitely attract griefer/pirate type mentalities that will "play to crush".
3) I hope they are ready to alter the node system in general post-launch. People will quickly figure out the best nodes to level and meta the shit out of that.
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Valderen
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This is kind of my concern, essentially it looks like PVE players will be the one to advance the Nodes only for PVP players to destroy them. I'm not sure the PVE crowd will not be in for that for the long term.
It still looks pretty interesting though, and will give it a try when it comes out if it reviews are good.
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Wasn't it obvious from the start that this is somewhat the plan? The creative director of AoC is Sorcerer, the guild leader of The White Order. I'd be surprised if there aren't mechanics so a big and organized guild can steamroll their smaller opponents in both PvE and PvP.
At least Amazon took the early negative feedback from PvE players for New World and delayed the release.
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Think about it: Isn't the ultimate form of P2W to bankroll your own game? Of course without P2W on the front, because P2W is bad! No one likes P2W!
But you can set up the rules in your favor, and your opposition can neither P2W, nor can they use RMT or they'll get banned. You even have all the transaction logs in the backend available to find something they are guilty of!
I think that would be the ultimate troll MMO.
Cybsled
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lol...guess he didn’t take the right lessons to heart when Kyrios PVP and population
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Shadowbane had problems other than just sieges and cities being sacked, namely the instability and the slideshow, rubber banding that the game was plagued with for quite some time after launch. The sieges and city building were nothing more than balance problems that could be solved. In fact years later I revisited Shadowbane, probably about a year before it canceled and it was rather fun without the crashes, the rubber banding, the lag, etc...