Autonomous Systems
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Supposedly the police have already viewed the videos from the car (which is festooned with cameras) and they are saying the hit was probably unavoidable whether it was a human driver or autonomous because the lady suddenly stepped out into traffic from the median.
I’m sure we’ll get lots of autonomous car FUD as a result though.
I’m sure we’ll get lots of autonomous car FUD as a result though.
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CaughtCross
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Here is the source article about the police saying the homeless lady basically walked in front of the car. I used to live in Santa Monica and have seen homeless people do weird crazy shit in the street all time. One time I had this homeless guy standing in the middle of the road right in front of me.. just standing there for a over minute blocking traffic.
Exclusive: Tempe police chief says early probe shows no fault by Uber
Exclusive: Tempe police chief says early probe shows no fault by Uber
pharmakos
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Arizona has intentionally left the autonomous car industry unregulated in their state in order to attract the business.
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khorum
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They’ve been active since late 2016. Waymo racked up five million miles and Uber’s self-driving fleet has another three million. This would make it the first fatality in 8 million miles and almost two years of service. Conventional taxi services average 18 fatalities per year for passengers and drivers alone.
That’s NOT counting the highest risk group for transportation fatalities which are “roadway trespassers” specifically bicyclists illegally weaving through traffic...
..which is exactly how that chick died. She was weaving through traffic and goosed the AI and got wrecked before the assistant could pause his Netflix.
That’s NOT counting the highest risk group for transportation fatalities which are “roadway trespassers” specifically bicyclists illegally weaving through traffic...
..which is exactly how that chick died. She was weaving through traffic and goosed the AI and got wrecked before the assistant could pause his Netflix.
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Like I said, Im all for this shit. Nothing would be better than catching a nap on the way to and from work, fuck bring it on already. And fuck would I love to do the same in our 3 hr round trips to our cabin that we make like 20 times a year. But I fear that our expectations are outpacing the actual tech, and all the bullshit surrounding it.
Chukzombi
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the car stops if there is any obstruction in the road. that means its slave (YOU), will have to get out and move it. no naps for you. you might wake up after 3 hours in your own driveway.
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Ukerric
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That's mostly what I see here: "if it had been just a human driver, it wouldn't even have rated a notice in local news". But we're already holding machines to a higher standard than humans. Otherwise, what's the point of replacing the humans
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There's a lot of stuff that will suddenly popup that nobody thought about. Will take time. I read they had issues in Australia becuase whatever they were using to avoid stuff got confused by Kangaroos going up and down and threw off the calculation of distance to it from going up and down as it crossed the road.
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Nothing I've seen says that anything actually got pushed back from this.
Toyota halting some on-road tests probably doesn't impact much, since most of the challenges of vehicular autonomy aren't surpassed by more live, system level testing.
I wouldn't be surprised if Toyota just activated their "Ped Murder by automobile" contingency trap card they laid out years ago that says they'd be all super serious when someone's car ran over a homeless person.
The response to this incident and the other death has been really mild. The public really is numb to vehicular death and thinks autonomy is going to help it (it will). There just isn't an anti-autonomy group or any money in it for big media to push.
I think we won't see much outrage until an autonomous car runs over a kid in an accident that a human driver could've avoided and that, sadly, will happen.
khorum
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It’s macabre but this is actually an important step for autonomous transport if the state or the family drag Uber to court.
If Uber doesn’t settle it’ll be an important precedent for liability cases involving autonomous vehicles in the future. Uber had three cameras on the driver and two cameras recording the victims both from the dash and from a rear-mounted camera. They have evidence to sustain their case that neither the driver nor the AI was at fault.
If Uber doesn’t settle it’ll be an important precedent for liability cases involving autonomous vehicles in the future. Uber had three cameras on the driver and two cameras recording the victims both from the dash and from a rear-mounted camera. They have evidence to sustain their case that neither the driver nor the AI was at fault.
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I love the idea of an autonomous rv vacation. Like you spend the day at Disneyland, watch the fireworks, then get in the RV and go to sleep and wake up in San Francisco for the next day of your trip.
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