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22 movies over 10 years with consistently increasing profits and the last 2 movies literally released a month apart should shit all over the "Star Wars Fatigue" nonsense
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22 movies over 10 years with consistently increasing profits and the last 2 movies literally released a month apart should shit all over the "Star Wars Fatigue" nonsense
Chukzombi
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even the Marvel guys cant agree
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Writers Christopher Markus and Stephen McFeely have worked with directors Anthony and Joe Russo on four Marvel Studios movies thus far, including the two most recent Avengers films, and while that group is typically simpatico, Avengers: Endgame is so complicated that it’s drawn a line in the sand, with each pair standing on opposing sides.
Keep reading to find out what they disagree about, but warning: there are major spoilers ahead.
Avengers: Endgame Time Travel Disagreement
In a conversation with Fandango, the interviewer asked the screenwriters if the film’s ending means that old Captain America was just hanging out while another Captain America was saving the day, and here’s how Markus responded:
That “alternate reality” theory he mentioned? That’s the one the Russos buy into. During a recent Q&A, they explained that in their minds, there were also two Captain Americas in the same universe…but there’s an important difference:
You’d think this would be something they all hammered out during their story sessions, but perhaps it points to a flaw in the storytelling. If even the people who spent months making the damn movie can’t agree on how it works, how are the rest of us supposed to parse it? Still, it’s impossible to deny that the end result of Cap’s story arc is emotionally resonant, even if we all still don’t quite understand the mechanics that got him there.
'Avengers: Endgame' Writers Disagree With Directors About How The Film's Timeline Works - SlashFilm
Writers Christopher Markus & Stephen McFeely disagree with the Russo Brothers about the film's timeline. Here's what they say about the Endgame time travel.
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Keep reading to find out what they disagree about, but warning: there are major spoilers ahead.
Avengers: Endgame Time Travel Disagreement
Once you introduce time travel into a movie, it opens up a whole host of questions, and sometimes the answers are more complicated than they appear. Case in point: Markus and McFeely disagree with the Russo Brothers about how the film’s time travel works – specifically, about what happens with Chris Evans’ Old Captain America at the end of the movie.In a conversation with Fandango, the interviewer asked the screenwriters if the film’s ending means that old Captain America was just hanging out while another Captain America was saving the day, and here’s how Markus responded:
That “alternate reality” theory he mentioned? That’s the one the Russos buy into. During a recent Q&A, they explained that in their minds, there were also two Captain Americas in the same universe…but there’s an important difference:
You’d think this would be something they all hammered out during their story sessions, but perhaps it points to a flaw in the storytelling. If even the people who spent months making the damn movie can’t agree on how it works, how are the rest of us supposed to parse it? Still, it’s impossible to deny that the end result of Cap’s story arc is emotionally resonant, even if we all still don’t quite understand the mechanics that got him there.
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There's something just amazing about Chris Evans' performance in that fight, and I think the reason it all hits home with us is that we've watched him fight relentlessly for like 7 movies already, so we know his will, and when he's so beat down at the end, can barely move, and finally gets up, exhausted, defeated, but not giving up, and then everyone comes in... it's just a completely overwhelming feeling. Blows my mind.
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Lanx
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his tech skirts morals, he gave his tech to a high school kid that has massacre'd a literal horde.
Remember when spidy had the gauntlet and he was getting mobbed he said "activate instant-kill" and his spidey legs were straight up jabbing aliens through the throat.
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I get you're just trying to use Mary Sue ironically because you thik it will piss off the "redneck trolls"--but you sound like a retard.
First, being powerful doesn't make you a Mary Sue. What makes you a Mary sue is not having to struggle with anything external. If the only thing you have to overcome is a beneficial flaw, like being too nice and selfless--you might be a Mary Sue. Multiple times over the course of the multi-decade story we see Iron Man's limitations. Yes, he's a genius--but they were careful about which field he could apply that in. Yeah, he's powerful...But his powers were given clear limitations and those limitations were brought center stage at every stage of his development. In every movie he's been in, his suit has pretty much been destroyed by the end--because the point of each movie was to show the limitations of the suit, over the powers.
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In nearly every movie he's in, his suit has failed him and he's had to rely on growth or personal sacrifice to overcome. In addition, the other aspect of a Mary Sue is you have no issues in interpersonal relationships because of you own flaws (Everyone just automatically loves you). Stark literally fought the other avengers due to his own insecurities about his mistakes harming others. and his ego/duplicitous behavior when he thinks he's right--and it all evolved because of his own history of being shallow, selfish and destructive. He's a deeply flawed man.
Contrast that with Mrs Mary Sue who everyone she meets, even the Skrulls, instantly love her. And they love her despite her doing things like....blowing up a ship containing many of the last surviving members of their race, and then hunting them down and killing them! But hey, once she claimed "I'm good now!", homeboy Super Skrull couldn't wait to have some Coffee with her. Contrast this to Iron Man's relationships. Say with Thor, or Cap...do those guys spend all their time blowing smoke up his ass about how great and noble he is? Or do they call out his bullshit, as well as compliment?
There in is your difference. Iron Man is pretty far from a Mary Sue, Cap is MUCH closer to a Mary Sue. (Its not about power, its just that most Mary Sue's are powerful.)
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simple... for CAP.
he holds onto ONE of the stones...say space(tesseract), goes back in time to the 40's...lives in that timeline that stone came from,,,then when OLD returns stone in 1970
then goes back to the normal "original" timeline where he just left from...bam no "loophole" for that sort of thing
he holds onto ONE of the stones...say space(tesseract), goes back in time to the 40's...lives in that timeline that stone came from,,,then when OLD returns stone in 1970
then goes back to the normal "original" timeline where he just left from...bam no "loophole" for that sort of thing
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I get you're just trying to use Mary Sue ironically because you thik it will piss off the "redneck trolls"--but you sound like a retard.
First, being powerful doesn't make you a Mary Sue. What makes you a Mary sue is not having to struggle with anything external. If the only thing you have to overcome is a beneficial flaw, like being too nice and selfless--you might be a Mary Sue. Multiple times over the course of the multi-decade story we see Iron Man's limitations. Yes, he's a genius--but they were careful about which field he could apply that in. Yeah, he's powerful...But his powers were given clear limitations and those limitations were brought center stage at every stage of his development. In every movie he's been in, his suit has pretty much been destroyed by the end--because the point of each movie was to show the limitations of the suit, over the powers.
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In nearly every movie he's in, his suit has failed him and he's had to rely on growth or personal sacrifice to overcome. In addition, the other aspect of a Mary Sue is you have no issues in interpersonal relationships because of you own flaws (Everyone just automatically loves you). Stark literally fought the other avengers due to his own insecurities about his mistakes harming others. and his ego/duplicitous behavior when he thinks he's right--and it all evolved because of his own history of being shallow, selfish and destructive. He's a deeply flawed man.
Contrast that with Mrs Mary Sue who everyone she meets, even the people the Skrulls, instantly love her. And they love her despite her doing things like....blowing up a ship containing many of the last surviving members of their race, and then hunting them down and killing them! But hey, once she claimed "I'm good now!", homeboy Super Skrull couldn't wait to have some Coffee with her. Contrast this to Iron Man's relationships. Say with Thor, or Cap...do those guys spend all their time blowing smoke up his ass about how great and noble he is? Or do they call out his bullshit, as well as compliment?
There in is your difference. Iron Man is pretty far from a Mary Sue, Cap is MUCH closer to a Mary Sue. (Its not about power, its just that most Mary Sue's are powerful.)
If I was gay, I'd give you a virtual blow job. Great post man, I appreciated and learned from your explanation of a Mary Sue.
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Chukzombi
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Xarpolis
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That's not 100% true. Lots of people were killing themselves after they watched it because they believed they would re-awaken in Pandora or some shit.
Avatar Increases US Suicide Rate; Cameron Held Responsible
(BFDN) — James Cameron’s new $500m theatrical space gimmick, Avatar has audiences jumping out of their seats — and, in some cases, out of windows, in front of buses, and off cliff…
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Harshaw
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I mean, that makes me want to titty fuck the hell out of her.
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I wish she would have been the hero to snap her fingers. She could have gotten cancer from the Gamma Rays like the real captain marvel(quantum bans) and died in the next movie. I think that movie would surpass any of the Infinity war movies.
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LMAO. We could go on a cinematic journey with Captain Marvel as she gets double mastectomies, shaves her head, further questions her womanhood, and then ends with her getting a chemoport, then a pneumothorax, bowel obstruction, renal failure, salvage chemotherapy, and a morphine drip. Closing song: Kettering by The Antlers.
The sad truth of the matter, is that entire hypothetical movie would draw less emotion from us than the 1 minute scene in GOTG when Peter's mom dies.
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The thing I don’t understand is why not give Thanos more to say. Brolin is a great actor and some more dialogue while he’s battling cap and iron man woulda made sense to me. 2014 thanos Was somehow more one dimensional which was a huge disappointment in retrospect because he was such a cool villain in infinity war.
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I would watch “Thanos”: The Hand of Fate if it starred Brolin.
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How fucking badass. Captain America, standing alone, against Thanos and his whole army.
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