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Cybsled said:
Sure it was. It was just slow as fuck and was real media format for streaming usually
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Did you ever use dial up? I doubt 56k could stream 240p youtube videos and there is no chance it could handle 720 or 1080.

Downloading songs from Napster took 30 minutes+ and those were 128 bit rate mp3 files.
 
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Chukzombi said:
i'm not getting into this stupid argument more than this post. but when i got broadband in early 2002. my dialup was something like 78k or 90? and i still couldnt run a fucking video on College Humor or Ebaums and those videos were shitacular quality. point of fact is no old lady can just get a computer and know how to use it straight out. she wouldnt pick Ask Jeeves either. it would have been Yahoo or Google. Google was the main search engine by the early 2000s. yeah Jeeves was still around in some form, but it had long been replaced years earlier back in the 90s. they used that likely because Google didnt give them permission. the modem thing is just dumb though. you could run gifs, but not full videos unless you sat there and waited and waited.
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we have better compression today bro. I don't know what you were on, but the maximum theoretical speed of dialup is 56kbps. So either you were on something else, or you're thinking of your real speeds which might have been 7.8 or 9 kbps. I think you could be on DSL with those speeds but then you would have surely noticed the lack of having to dial up.

I don't think permission had anything to do with their creative decision. If you watched the talking saul right after the episode they talked about how they missed the boat not getting a product placement endorsement from dukes, helmans, or anybody. Pretty sure they said it didn't even cross their mind to call them up.
 
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Burns said:
Did you ever use dial up? I doubt 56k could stream 240p youtube videos and there is no chance it could handle 720 or 1080.

Downloading songs from Napster took 30 minutes+ and those were 128 bit rate mp3 files.
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Just like most of us, I used to download porn on dialup. It's how I learned to edge.
 
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Hoss said:
Just like most of us, I used to download porn on dialup. It's how I learned to edge.
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Pretty much. Spend an hour for the streaming RM to buffer fully…you’d get a couple seconds every few minutes. The quality was so bad it made pixelated Japanese porn movie genitals look like 4K HD
 
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Hoss said:
Just like most of us, I used to download porn on dialup. It's how I learned to edge.
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Sure, but 280p still took hours to download, and again, we are talkin about YouTube, where it is only allowed to buffer for so long. So I guess she could have watched a minute or two at a time, then waited 10 min for the next min or two to buffer...but that's not the impression you get.

This oversight doesn't bother me in the least, but it is still a bit of a funny oversight. More so that a bunch of people involved in the show should be our age, and had to deal with all those dial up issues (including Limewire porn).
 
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we have better compression today bro. I don't know what you were on, but the maximum theoretical speed of dialup is 56kbps. So either you were on something else, or you're thinking of your real speeds which might have been 7.8 or 9 kbps. I think you could be on DSL with those speeds but then you would have surely noticed the lack of having to dial up.

I don't think permission had anything to do with their creative decision. If you watched the talking saul right after the episode they talked about how they missed the boat not getting a product placement endorsement from dukes, helmans, or anybody. Pretty sure they said it didn't even cross their mind to call them up.
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it wasnt 56k. my shit was at 62-64k average and higher at night. my dad set up my machine for me and i was getting some great speeds for the time. it was really great from what i started out with back in the mid 90s. i had a 14.4k modem and it was mind numbingly slow even for the mid 90s. i dont remember if i had switched over to a LAN connection before DSL. but i was doing better before i said fuck it and went full DSL. i got tired of being the first one to LD during any raid. after DSL i never went down. was funny watching the modem people conk out. was also kinda scary when your MT goes LD and i was one of the only ones still there while an angry bunch of szzraethors are swarming at you. i was always next to the MT on the hate list because i reslowed those damned things so often during our slow fights.
 
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Chukzombi said:
it wasnt 56k. my shit was at 62-64k average and higher at night. my dad set up my machine for me and i was getting some great speeds for the time. it was really great from what i started out with back in the mid 90s. i had a 14.4k modem and it was mind numbingly slow even for the mid 90s. i dont remember if i had switched over to a LAN connection before DSL. but i was doing better before i said fuck it and went full DSL. i got tired of being the first one to LD during any raid. after DSL i never went down. was funny watching the modem people conk out. was also kinda scary when your MT goes LD and i was one of the only ones still there while an angry bunch of szzraethors are swarming at you. i was always next to the MT on the hate list because i reslowed those damned things so often during our slow fights.
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Isn't 56.6k the fastest possible dial-up speed with actual speeds maxing around 7k?
 
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Isn't 56.6k the fastest possible dial-up speed with actual speeds maxing around 7k?
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maybe, i havent used a modem in 20 years. i only went by the speed i was getting on the meter i used at the bottom right corner telling me what speed i was connected at.
 
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technically ADSL existed up until the mid 2010s and allowed up to like 6 MBps over phone lines but yeah, i think that and youtube is just something you gotta chalk up to anachronisms in BB/BCS, like sometimes you'll see a car out of time - I think season 1 or 2 of BCS had a Kia Soul in it and someone said the car wasn't out until the mid 2010s.

 
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Really its how you know this show is fucking good. Pages and pages nerd picking about internet speed. If thats the worst thing about this show then holy fuck good show.
 
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Really its how you know this show is fucking good. Pages and pages nerd picking about internet speed. If thats the worst thing about this show then holy fuck good show.
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I cant enjoy this show because an old lady is watching YouTube videos on dialup!!
 
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Isn't 56.6k the fastest possible dial-up speed with actual speeds maxing around 7k?
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Actual speeds maxed out much higher than that. Probably in the 40's or 50's. But it was so dependent on your location. Wherever you lived, 7k might have been the actual max. But people in new neighborhoods with good wires were getting high 30's and low 40's. If you lived at the switch station and had about a 5 foot run of wire, you could get into the 50's. I did some jobs where we used dialup modems between 2 computers and we had a ringdown line simulator between the 2 modems with 6 foot cords connecting them (so 12 feet of copper total). I can't remember the exact speeds we got, but even under those ideal conditions we were in the 50's but shy of 56k.
 
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Actual speeds maxed out much higher than that. Probably in the 40's or 50's. But it was so dependent on your location. Wherever you lived, 7k might have been the actual max. But people in new neighborhoods with good wires were getting high 30's and low 40's. If you lived at the switch station and had about a 5 foot run of wire, you could get into the 50's. I did some jobs where we used dialup modems between 2 computers and we had a ringdown line simulator between the 2 modems with 6 foot cords connecting them (so 12 feet of copper total). I can't remember the exact speeds we got, but even under those ideal conditions we were in the 50's but shy of 56k.
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yea location and how good the physical line and noise was affected speeds, the standards were x2 by usrobotics and could reach 53k while 56k flex by lucent could reach the max of 56k, then they finally made the v90 standard and it didn't matter. i remember this cuz one of my jobs in 97 was selling modems. a lot of ppl asked a lot of questions, which ones to buy and why choose x2 over flex.

in the end i just figured out to ask "do you have aol?" then you buy x2, b/c they don't support 56kflex

"but i want to buy this 56k flex modem"

then go switch to compuserve (i actually don't know if compuserve had more 56k flex location or support, i just know ppl give up after i say that)

i always sold em the twice more expensive external modem, cuz i know these dumb fucks would screwup and return an internal modem.
 
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This dial up thing is this shows version of denarys snapping for no reason. The cripple being king. The sudden fleet. The barbarian horde dying like dumb dumbs....all rolled into one.
 
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It's a shame they had to destroy the legacy of Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul right as they approach the finish line.

Fuck this shit, though, I'm out
 
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