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Comics can be pretty good too!
The build up to Secret Wars (2015) was overall really fun.
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Birds of Prey (And the Fantabulous Emancipation of One Harley Quinn) (2020)
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Comics can be pretty good too!
The build up to Secret Wars (2015) was overall really fun.
Grizzlebeard
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I tried reading Doctor Strange when I was a kid but the writing was all over the shop. I swear you had to be off your tits for it to make any sense.
I was kind of spoiled though, the comics coming out of Britain back then, predominantly 2000AD, had some of the best writing and art I've ever seen.
I was kind of spoiled though, the comics coming out of Britain back then, predominantly 2000AD, had some of the best writing and art I've ever seen.
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Chris
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Yeah my phone said there was a posting error, pressed post 3 times before I realised I was probably multi posting.
Sanrith Descartes
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DC need to hire a good writer, good director and take a leap of faith with one of their non- A+ comics. Just write a good non-woke script and make an enjoyable movie for God's sake.
Do a New Gods movie, or the JSA or even the Legion. Just something different. And did I mention non-woke?
Do a New Gods movie, or the JSA or even the Legion. Just something different. And did I mention non-woke?
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Daezuel
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Lithose
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In her own comics she's still a side character, she's just a side character to Poison Ivy instead of Joker, and because its a woman controlling her its empowered I guess. Harley is a needy masochist. She works as an echo/enhancement to someone else who is strong, competent and manipulating. All of her successful comics follow that general theme. Anyone who comes in with the idea of her being a "feminist" and "independent" character already has a fundamental misunderstanding of what is appealing with the character.
I mean, its literally in her name..Harley Quinn...Harlequin, her name is based on what she should be, a servant. And usually a major fuck up. In fact one of her defining qualities is she is athletic and smart but usually fucks up Jokers plans anyway, which is why it looks like a twisted form of love, because Joker always takes her back and she gets attention from him that fuels her masochism and he also gets to continue playing with Batman (Because Harley fucked up his kill). In a twisted way, everyone gets what they want.
But its being a perennial fuck up despite being gifted that is one of her qualities that makes her endearing (She is a reverse Forest Gump) but also ensures she is always garbage on her own. She needs a competent person to be in control so she can play off them. And Joker, despite being a maniac, is super humanely competent, (I mean, he is geneuinly Batman's mirror, in fact he's MORE competent in numerous ways, he matches Batman despite being no match for him physically), as is Poison Ivy. Harley Quinn being on her own and not being someone's bitch is a huge mistake, she doesn't work well that way. She needs that competence to be a foil to and produce the fucked up interactions her character shines a light on.
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Asshat wormie
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Imagine thinking all this in current year. Does she have a vagina? Then everything you said doesn’t matter and she is awesome grrrrrrrriiiilll power!
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Lanx
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in, injustice dr. fate (dc's dr strange) said that harley and joke are intertwined by fate, where there is a joker, there is harley. unless joker was punch through the chest by superman, basically removing him from the table by an outside source, harley can never escape the joker on her volition...
then they just said fuck it, we'll make harley a lesbo and hot for poison ivy
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Chukzombi
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it is pretty silly that they had HQ in just one movie completely devoted to Mr J, he even breaks her out of Arkham (or Iron Heights?) because he was just as devoted to her, then she just fucks off without him off camera at the beginning of this movie. they didnt even give their relationship a chance to develop and give it more meaning for a potential breakup later on. i wonder if they will shit up Aquaman2 too by firing Amber Heard and then play it off as a break up or pretend she never existed. DC is a fucking mess.
Goatface
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was doing a comparison of movies it was being compared to at different points. it was supposed to do as good as shazam.
then after the weekend they were hoping it would gain momentum like spider-verse. think it is interesting how closely it is following wick2 so far. predictions still have it going over $100m domestic
Sterling
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Nice so this movie did ~ 87 percent of the business of Wick 2 which had less than half of the budget of this travesty. I'm sure the marketing allotment was well more than double Wick as well.
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Cybsled
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Given JW2 and BoP both launched in Feb and their almost identical earnings curve, it does make me wonder if the time of year is playing a significant role in its performance. Feb is usually a soft time of year for films and an almost identical earnings curve and similar type of genre (John Wick and comicbook films have a lot of overlap), makes me wonder how different it may have been if dropped later in the year.