Black Panther (2018)

I thought it was pretty solid. I think the first throne room scene with Erik single-handedly brought the whole movie down a couple spots for me, it felt like it should have been 10 minutes long but instead it was just random yelling and glossing over basically every major moral and social question that the movie had raised so far in favor of... not talking as much? I dunno. It was a crucial point of the story and they just floundered it hard, and the characterization and everything else suffered for it. They never addressed the two different factions of warriors that ended up fighting either, although it's somewhat decipherable but there was no development, just suddenly happened.

The characters themselves were all great, though. Mostly the movie was great. I think those things bugged me so much because it builds itself up and then just forgets what it is trying to do.

Cynical said:

Didn't really read thread. Black Panther was officially created by 2 white dudes during the comic/marvel pseudo-blacksploitation period. Suddenly in 2018 is an icon for civil rights, and inspiration for black youth

What the fuck.

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I'm not crazy familiar with the comics but it's only "suddenly" if you ignore like 40 years of development and writing in the comics. If you compare any comic character volume 1 to the movie you they are not going to add up a lot of the time.

Cynical said:

Didn't really read thread. Black Panther was officially created by 2 white dudes during the comic/marvel pseudo-blacksploitation period. Suddenly in 2018 is an icon for civil rights, and inspiration for black youth

What the fuck.

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Curious. Almost as weird as Evangelicals and other value voters falling for a thrice married hucksters who likes golden showers from Russian hookers, fiscal hawks falling for a guy pushing the deficit over a trillion, rural working poor falling for a guy stealing their health care to bolster hedge funds and his Goldman Sachs cronies, anti-DC swamp hawks falling for a guy that immediately hires his whole family, etc.., etc.., etc.. etc..

aychamo_aycono said:

Can anyone please explain:

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Black Panther has superhuman strength, because he drinks the stupid potion. How come as soon as he drinks the potion, he has the strength, then he is challenged (by the guy from the other tribe, then by Creed) and they are fucking just as strong if not stronger??

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The other guy had gorilla blood and Creed is Wakandan-American. Harambe Strength and Ghetto Training trumps any dumbass Kangz potion.

Zweischneid said:

Curious. Almost as weird as Evangelicals and other value voters falling for a thrice married hucksters who likes golden showers from Russian hookers, fiscal hawks falling for a guy pushing the deficit over a trillion, rural working poor falling for a guy stealing their health care to bolster hedge funds and his Goldman Sachs cronies, anti-DC swamp hawks falling for a guy that immediately hires his whole family, etc.., etc.., etc.. etc..

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Or aryan ubermenschen letting three million subhumans into their country to impregnate their sisters.

That's a good looking costume. The after market really upped their game.

How did people miss the removing of powers before ritual combat plot point :/

Chris said:

How did people miss the removing of powers before ritual combat plot point :/

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Or the guy flat out saying every time before the fight I take from you the powers of the black panther. I am not sure how much more blatant they could make that they were depowering him so it would be a fair fight.

kaid said:

Or the guy flat out saying every time before the fight I take from you the powers of the black panther. I am not sure how much more blatant they could make that they were depowering him so it would be a fair fight.

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I thought a huge positive point of the movie was that T'Challa, while a great fighter, found it so difficult to win ritual combat and actually lost once (nearly lost both).

Chris said:

How did people miss the removing of powers before ritual combat plot point :/

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The same reason Astr0 could never follow the plot of a TV show

Saw it yesterday. Pretty good but the guy playing Black Panther was boring as shit. His sister and Andy Serkis totally stole the show. The costume design was definitely top notch.

The whole time I'm just thinking "you know, this is why monarchies suck."

6/10 Movie wasn't very good, not really worth going into the details on. I only really wanted to see it so that I wasn't missing anything going into Infinity War, probably wasn't even worth it for that.

I did appreciate the Tim Hardaway reference at the beginning of the movie when Killmonger was balling with his homies on the streets of Oaktown, back when the Warriors were still in the dark ages. They should have had one of the kids at the end wearing a Steph jersey. As he brought the Warriors franchise into a period of enlightenment, T'Challa was now going to bring the entire world into a period of enlightenment, starting in Oakland.