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Royal
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There was the Marty Robbins song (and the cassette tape) that started playing in the Volvo when he started the car. The song (titled El Paso) is about a gunfighter who loved a girl named Felina. He was killed when he was shot in his side.
Perfect song for the ending. To this day every time I hear Don't Stop Believin' I think of The Sopranos; I imagine it will be the same for Baby Blue with Breaking Bad. It was also cool that they had the Marty Robbins song playing (which I linked earlier) when he stole the Volvo.
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Yes, the song was perfect. Absolutely perfect. I literally started tearing up during that song.
When he was walking around the meth lab and picked up the gasmask I laughed because I thought he was going to do one final cook or blow himself and the place up! I thought that would have been pretty badass, but him being in "love" with all the equipment was very touching and quite beautiful.
Percy Bysshe Shelley's poem, Ozymandias, is quite fitting for this show:
When he was walking around the meth lab and picked up the gasmask I laughed because I thought he was going to do one final cook or blow himself and the place up! I thought that would have been pretty badass, but him being in "love" with all the equipment was very touching and quite beautiful.
Percy Bysshe Shelley's poem, Ozymandias, is quite fitting for this show:
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That they COULD be a real threat is not being contested. How they progressed into the threat is what I didn't like. From the moment Hank had his porcelain epiphany, you knew(or assumed) that the last half of the season would Hank vs Walt. And until the end of S5E13/14, that's how the whole season what progressing and it was awesome. Killing Hank certainly was a dramatic surprise, I just don't know that I like that the Nazis replace him as the final boss.
Think of Walt vs Hank, how is it resolved? It's complicated and messy and a challenge to resolve in a short order, which is why it was getting almost 8 episodes. Walt vs Nazis? One M60 and 5 minutes. Gus Fring took more thinking and two whole episodes to dispose of. With how sloppy S5E13 was, I'm suspecting the writers couldn't come up with a way to resolve Walt vs Hank either.
Realize this is nitpicking. The finale was still quite awesome.
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If the show ended with only Hank vs Walt.. it would have been incredibly shallow imo. The nazi's were no Gus, but they were still a good enemy to have the show end on. It would have been entirely different if it was just a bunch of nobody skinheads.. but they built up the relationship strongly by having Todd be a huge part of it.
If it was just Hank vs Walt it would have pretty much ended in the desert, with walt in handcuffs, yaay?
If it was just Hank vs Walt it would have pretty much ended in the desert, with walt in handcuffs, yaay?
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The video at the AB compound where he confesses everything to Hank and talks about Todd killing the kid. I'm sure the cops look thru everything when they get there.
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I agree deathwing. Plus we have been spoiled with some insane and awesome villains, and uncle jack and his crew were basically a bunch of common thieves who were too dumb to walk away with their newly found 84 million dollars.
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definitely watch the last talking bad, fucking awesome and gus also shows up to chat. conan had the entire BB cast on last week too and it was great.
best walter white moment from the show, he is finally honest with skyler
i'm gonna disagree on the soundtrack though, I think baby blue would have been better at the end of the last episode, and line of fire would have been the best song to end the finale with. probably just me though, i just don't like how baby blue sounds
best walter white moment from the show, he is finally honest with skyler
i'm gonna disagree on the soundtrack though, I think baby blue would have been better at the end of the last episode, and line of fire would have been the best song to end the finale with. probably just me though, i just don't like how baby blue sounds
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Why would it have been shallow? Where could the plot have gone if the confrontation in the desert wasn't forced? It's the writers' job to come up with an exciting plot. And Hank was the ultimate adversary for Walt. He couldn't just kill his way out of this one with some fancy science contraption. On top of that, he was unwilling to kill Hank. I think the "final showdown" between Hank and Walt could have been interesting.
Todd does help, but I think they made him creepy to facilitate these last episodes. They realized he'd have to go at one point, so they made him into a character the audience wouldn't miss. Without his creepiness, Todd is just Meth Damon. Almost a Jesse with blonde hair.
When does Todd's creepy side start showing? Honest question, I can't remember. Is it saving the tarantula? If so, maybe I'm not giving the writers enough credit.
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I don't understand this. WHY do people keep saying this? When has Walt ever misrepresented something someone else has done to suit his interpretive needs? It's never happened, not once in the show. Walt's analysis of people, and their plans, is usuallyextremelyaccurate. If anything, his interpretations are usually emotionally detached--even if it's deeply offensive and disturbing to him (His analysis of Gus' action with Hank.)
Walt's main vice was his pride distorting his goals, never his pride distorting what other people were, or what they've done. Again, he's always been extremely analytical about that. If Walt was seriously that offended, from everything we've seen? Most likely he had a good reason to be. (Again, his pride typically distorts his goals in relation to his needs, and his ego in terms of recognition, like when he told Hank Gale was not Heisenberg. But it's never been in his judgement about people, or situations.)
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It wasn't the best Breaking Bad episode but it was still a damn good one, most TV series couldn't even dream of going out that good. The M60 and ricin may have been a bit contrived but the writers have taken liberty in the past with certain things to advance the show and whether you like it or not Walt was supposed to get some revenge before it was all said and done.
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Also consider that if the show had been about Gus Fring, he'd have gotten taken out by a nobody chemistry teacher and a paralyzed old man. Part of the point is that once you're at the top, you never know who or what is going to knock you down. Walt deeply underestimated Jack and his gang, and he paid for it. Just like Gus.
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Correct. I honestly think the Walt/Gretchen thing was more about a love triangle than anything else. Walt doesn't come from money, and what makes him special is his intellect. He *demands* respect for that, and all throughout the show he wants to be perceived as a provider. Gretchen's family was already wealthy, and she didn't need him in that way. When he went on that ski trip and saw how her family lived, it repelled him and forced a split. It just so happened that Elliot was there to pick up the pieces.
It's not as if this doesn't happen all the time in real life. A couple has a falling out, one perceives it to be over whereas another thinks it's an ongoing difficulty and suddenly there's a third person in the picture. They can very easily both be correct: Walt stormed off from the trip, and was bought out when it became apparent that Elliot and Gretchen were a thing and they could no longer work together.
They wronged each other like all former lovers eventually do. Walt moved on, found himself a waitress who really did *need* him as a provider, and settled into that life. Not long after, a special needs child is on the way and he's stuck in a job he can't afford to quit that is far beneath his talents. Cue pilot.
Royal
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Not quite so beautiful when you consider that all of that lab equipment that was making him feel all misty had, in his last moments on this earth, taken the place of his family. Granted he had done as much as he was able to secure their future before dying, it still strikes me as part of the tragedy.
I dunno about shallow, but it would certainly come off as much more cliched. Especially for a series that has opted for misdirection as much as this one has.