College Football 2014-15

Joeboo

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It used to be OK. LSU used to throw a big party for fans with lots of media there at the casino and cover all the signees all day. Now with the internet no need to attend that and I think it fizzled out.
Mizzou has alumni banquets shortly after signing day where you can go, have dinner with the coaches and some recruits, listen to the coaches talk about the recruits, meet the kids, etc. I used to attend those every so often, met Aldon Smith as a 17-year-old coming out of high school(was quiet, and built like a basketball small forward, scrawny as hell but had HUGE hands, like bear paws), Blaine Gabbert, Sheldon Richardson, Jeremy Maclin, and quite a few other recruits. Those tend to be a lot of fun, they're really laid back, the kids and the coaches get to joke around and rib each other once the pressure of signing day is in the past, and you finally get to hear some detailed info on a kid from their actual position coach, not just some generic, bland coach-speak press release from the head coach. I tell you what, get a few beers into a line coach, or some other position coach far enough down the pecking order that they aren't overly concerned with their public persona and being PC yet, and you can really get some choice opinions out of them regarding your team, and league rivals as well.
 

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Listening to local radio today interview the Arkansas recruits was really cool. A couple of them are extremely well spoken and basically sounded better trained and more professional than the idiots running the call in show. Not that it is hard to do, but for 18 year old kids it was quite surprising. Then you have some of the bad stuff like the crap going on concerning LOIs such as:

National Signing Day 2015: Byron Cowart National Letter of Intent Drama - College and Magnolia

Letters being faxed, not faxed, being controlled by HS coaches, parents involved, blah blah. It has been worse in the past but still, hate to see stuff go down on what should be a good day for these kids.
 

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Here are the final ESPN class rankings, for what it's worth
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Not sure what's up with their +/- system, some teams made HUGE leaps but aren't listed as moving much.

Florida came out of goddamn nowhere to secure a pretty good class, they got a couple 5-star guys to choose them fairly late in the day on signing day that really bumped their class up. They ended up snagging the #1 OL in the country and the #2 DE in the country late in the day. 247 Sports had Florida jumping from like 68th to 21st on signing day. Crazy.

USC and UCLA both had a hell of a day as well, a few services even have USC listed with the #1 overall class over Alabama.

I'm happy with my Mizzou tigers, it's possibly our best recruiting class ever, it definitely will be if everyone qualifies and makes it to campus. Snagged the #1 player in Missouri(#6 pro-style QB in the country), kansas, and Illinois(#1 DT in the country) so we're doing pretty well locking down the elite players from our own, and our neighboring states. I guess our ties to the big12 are officially done, we didn't sign a single kid from Texas for the first time in about a decade, but we're pulling kids from SEC states pretty well already. 3 from Georgia, 2 from Louisiana, 2 from Tennessee, kids from Miss, FL, etc. Our coaches have made some nice in-roads pretty quickly in the South in just a few short years. ITs going to be weird seeing our roster change over from 50% texas kids to 50% kids from the deep South.
 

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Really happy with UCLA's day. Now just really worried about the UCLA USC games; our win streak against USC probably wont last much longer.
 

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So in other words they were just holding out for more money. Got it.
Listening to local radio today interview the Arkansas recruits was really cool. A couple of them are extremely well spoken and basically sounded better trained and more professional than the idiots running the call in show. Not that it is hard to do, but for 18 year old kids it was quite surprising. Then you have some of the bad stuff like the crap going on concerning LOIs such as:

National Signing Day 2015: Byron Cowart National Letter of Intent Drama - College and Magnolia

Letters being faxed, not faxed, being controlled by HS coaches, parents involved, blah blah. It has been worse in the past but still, hate to see stuff go down on what should be a good day for these kids.
 

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So in other words they were just holding out for more money. Got it.
Speaking of this, I am actually surprised we haven't seen numerous twitter pictures uploaded with recruits holding a bunch of cash (then quickly deleted). It happens every year like clockwork, but haven't seen any as of yet.

I am kindof disappointed.
 

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About the only story I heard this morning while getting ready for work was a report that somehow mentioned that Auburn was budgeting $6,000.00 a player in benefits and something something how that'd factor in to recruiting... ah hell, to Google to look for a link.

Okay:How new NCAA benefits could change college football recruiting

USA Today_sl said:
Jacobs, for instance, said the average full cost of attendance benefit for Auburn athletes is likely in the neighborhood of $6,000 per year, with an additional $1,500 if they enroll in summer school. That number would rank among the highest in the SEC and perhaps even a couple thousand dollars more per year than some of the regional schools Auburn regularly recruits against.
 

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Speaking of this, I am actually surprised we haven't seen numerous twitter pictures uploaded with recruits holding a bunch of cash (then quickly deleted). It happens every year like clockwork, but haven't seen any as of yet.

I am kindof disappointed.
Tim Irvin flipped from Texas to Auburn and then posted the stack of cash picture. Only one I know of this year.

Joeboo, espn was constantly updating throughout the day. I think the plus minus represents the total moves between updates.
 

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Considering Alabama and Auburn did the same thing? I don't like what happened, but it is life. How many times has a recruit decommitted on signing day or a few days before? So it is OK for a recruit to do shit like this and then everyone is up in arms when a coach does it? People hate Petrino, we get it. But I didn't see anyone bat an eye when Alabama/Auburn did it or any other team for that matter on prior years (Bama does it every year, most top schools do). Story is completely overblown and one-sided, just to target one specific coach. Welcome to college football, people need to get a Fucking clue.

Http://insider.espn.go.com/insider/story?id=10430908

Btw... Lorenzo Mauldin was committed to South Carolina for many months. He was asked to greyshirt the day before signing day. That's how he ended up at Louisville, and by the way he talks about Louisville, I think he's happy with the outcome.
 

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The thing is, no one likes it when a kid renegs on a commitment at the last second, or when a coach does it to a kid, but most people tend to hold a 50-year old professional to a little higher standard than a 17 year old teenager. It's not right when either does it, and both do, but the standards and expectations are(and should be) different, even though the situation is the same.

Unfortunately, Alabama can get away with it because Saban can basically do whatever he wants because of who he is and what he's done. A school like Louisville and a coach like Petrino probably doesn't have the reputation to pull off something like that without backlash. Just like a star pro player who is under contract can hold out for more money and no one really bats an eye, if the backup/bench player tries to do the same, people are going to tell him to GTFO.
 

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The thing is, no one likes it when a kid renegs on a commitment at the last second, or when a coach does it to a kid, but most people tend to hold a 50-year old professional to a little higher standard than a 17 year old teenager. It's not right when either does it, and both do, but the standards and expectations are(and should be) different, even though the situation is the same.

Unfortunately, Alabama can get away with it because Saban can basically do whatever he wants because of who he is and what he's done. A school like Louisville and a coach like Petrino probably doesn't have the reputation to pull off something like that without backlash. Just like a star pro player who is under contract can hold out for more money and no one really bats an eye, if the backup/bench player tries to do the same, people are going to tell him to GTFO.
I agree it is bullshit (on both fronts, as the recruit or recruiter), but everyone is singling out one incident of it happening. I don't care if it is Alabama, Auburn, John's Technical College, you should be angry at all of them equally for doing it and not plaster one school and coach all over the media and acting like this is the first time it has ever occurred. Doesn't matter if your a top tier program and have the last name of Saban, you are still equally messing with a kids potential future grayshirting. So whether it is Alabama/Saban doing it, or Louisville/Petrino doing it, it is still the same damn thing.
 

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It's definitely a part of how it works, but with shitrino, it deserves all the backlash it is receiving because how giant a douche he has consistently proved himself to be. He is a giant piece of shit who needs to be taken out to the woodshed and beat to shit.
 

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Yeah, its kind of the same notion as the Patriots cheating. Anyone else, not really a big deal. Have a history of cheating already? Huge ordeal.

Petrino has a history of extreme douchebaggery & lying, so when he acts like a douche & lies again he gets massive backlash.
 

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He had asked the kid to greyshirt. What's the big fucking deal? Delay enrollment for a semester, then have a full ride at Louisville. Don't give me this crying river over him committing so long ago, that other schools stop recruiting him. Is he upset his second highest offer was Wake Forest, followed by the powerhouse likes of Charleston Southern, Coastal Carolina, or Toledo? If he was that great of a player, schools would still recruit him and find a spot. They were still going to put him on scholarship after "grey shirting" that would allowed him to have a longer college football career.

Coaches are paid for performances on the field. If they can't perform then they get fired pretty damn fast. Slots were filled, he was asked to come in later. I see no major issue here.
 

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A lot of these kids can't afford the 5-10 grand that tuition + room & board costs for 1 semester, until they can get on scholarship

I'm sure out-of-state tuition at Louisville isn't overly cheap