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Ameraves said:
Yeah that is what I was afraid of. Most of my data is stored in my external HDD's, so it will really just be re-doing my settings and everything once it is installed.


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CrystalDiskMark 6.0.2 x64 (C) 2007-2018 hiyohiyo
Crystal Dew World : Crystal Dew World
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* MB/s = 1,000,000 bytes/s [SATA/600 = 600,000,000 bytes/s]
* KB = 1000 bytes, KiB = 1024 bytes

Sequential Read (Q= 32,T= 1) : 547.447 MB/s
Sequential Write (Q= 32,T= 1) : 508.434 MB/s
Random Read 4KiB (Q= 8,T= 8) : 393.297 MB/s [ 96019.8 IOPS]
Random Write 4KiB (Q= 8,T= 8) : 353.224 MB/s [ 86236.3 IOPS]
Random Read 4KiB (Q= 32,T= 1) : 234.556 MB/s [ 57264.6 IOPS]
Random Write 4KiB (Q= 32,T= 1) : 208.197 MB/s [ 50829.3 IOPS]
Random Read 4KiB (Q= 1,T= 1) : 35.640 MB/s [ 8701.2 IOPS]
Random Write 4KiB (Q= 1,T= 1) : 86.106 MB/s [ 21022.0 IOPS]

Test : 500 MiB [C: 55.5% (128.8/232.3 GiB)] (x5) [Interval=5 sec]
Date : 2019/06/28 16:02:04
OS : Windows 10 [10.0 Build 17134] (x64)
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Not sure what any of that means :)
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It means your SSD is performing at nearly is maximum capacity...which is good. DON'T REFORMAT IT. Back up all your shit now. Browser bookmarks, furry porn, etc.

You did the /sfc thing, right? That looks for fucked up OS files and repairs them.

You reset the BIOS to defaults, right?
 
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Dom said:
That length of time during bootup makes me think that there's some sort of (de)compression or (d)encryption going on. Do you have some sort of bitlocker thing going on or anything of the sort?
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Not that I know of, no. I would think I would have remembered setting that up.

I'm running the System File Checker now.
 
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Have you tried unplugging your HD completely (so there is no boot device) and see if it still hangs at the ASUS screen? If that's the case, I'd change the CMOS battery first, then try updating BIOS
 
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Fucker said:
It means your SSD is performing at nearly is maximum capacity...which is good. DON'T REFORMAT IT. Back up all your shit now. Browser bookmarks, furry porn, etc.

You did the /sfc thing, right? That looks for fucked up OS files and repairs them.

You reset the BIOS to defaults, right?
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SFC ran and said it found some errors and fixed them. Still same time for boot up though.
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Have you tried unplugging your HD completely (so there is no boot device) and see if it still hangs at the ASUS screen? If that's the case, I'd change the CMOS battery first, then try updating BIOS
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No, I haven't actually pulled the PC apart at all yet. Was hoping to avoid that.
 
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I would unplug every HDD that isn't your boot drive and start there

There have been issues if you install Windows with a bunch of drives in the system
 
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Do you have a spare HDD or something you can install Windows onto?

Go here

Windows 10 Fall Creators Update 1709 Download • Windows ISO

windowsiso.net windowsiso.net

Grab Standard W10 ISO. You don't need a key.

Put it on a thumbdrive with this

Download Windows USB/DVD Download Tool from Official Microsoft Download Center

www.microsoft.com www.microsoft.com

Once it's flashed, go into your BIOS and make sure the thumb drive is the first bootable drive....then load Windows from it on whatever HDD you swapped into the SSD spot.

Make sure the spare HHD is the only one in your system, otherwise you could nuke your main W10 install.

It should only take about 10-15 minutes to load Windows 10 onto a fresh drive. If it boots quickly, then you have a W10 issue on your main drive. DO a backup of your stuff and reinstall W10.

If it is still slow, then you have to start juggling hardware.
 
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From what you've posted, it seems like it's not actually hanging on booting to the OS, but somewhere prior. I think I'd, at the very least, pull power and the CMOS battery for a few minutes (replace the battery with a brand new one) and see where that gets you.
 
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Do you have a spare HDD or something you can install Windows onto?

Go here

Windows 10 Fall Creators Update 1709 Download • Windows ISO

windowsiso.net windowsiso.net

Grab Standard W10 ISO. You don't need a key.

Put it on a thumbdrive with this

Download Windows USB/DVD Download Tool from Official Microsoft Download Center

www.microsoft.com www.microsoft.com

Once it's flashed, go into your BIOS and make sure the thumb drive is the first bootable drive....then load Windows from it on whatever HDD you swapped into the SSD spot.

Make sure the spare HHD is the only one in your system, otherwise you could nuke your main W10 install.

It should only take about 10-15 minutes to load Windows 10 onto a fresh drive. If it boots quickly, then you have a W10 issue on your main drive. DO a backup of your stuff and reinstall W10.

If it is still slow, then you have to start juggling hardware.
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yea, basic ssds are so cheap now Crucial MX500 250GB 3D NAND SATA 2.5 Inch Internal SSD - CT250MX500SSD1 is only 40bucks, like just a tier lower or competitive with a 870, for 10bucks less you can get the bx version which is like ghetto plastic lulz

i actually just got the bx ghetto to put in my htpc drive, it's an old ass phenom2, heck i don't think it even has sata3, but it's win7 and i just wanna update the home computers to win10, so i'd rather just buy a new drive to put it on, rather than updating.
 
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Anyone have an issue lately where when moving your mouse, the system somehow thinks you're clicking and dragging something from your previous browsing, clipboard, or other things? It seems to happen several times a day, and mostly consists of clipboard stuff, but the last one for example was telling firefox to go to a reaction confirmation page for the forums from what I assume was something I reacted to previously.

What it looks like when it's happening can be replicated when you highlight text and drag it to something else. But it's from shit that isn't even on screen most of the time.
 
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Dom said:
Anyone have an issue lately where when moving your mouse, the system somehow thinks you're clicking and dragging something from your previous browsing, clipboard, or other things? It seems to happen several times a day, and mostly consists of clipboard stuff, but the last one for example was telling firefox to go to a reaction confirmation page for the forums from what I assume was something I reacted to previously.

What it looks like when it's happening can be replicated when you highlight text and drag it to something else. But it's from shit that isn't even on screen most of the time.
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That is a weird one, and somehow your current avatar seems oddly appropriate. =P

Have you got clipboard history turned on? I think it was a new feature introduced in Win 1809. Not sure why it would be glitching out, but maybe try turning it off for a while if it's on?
(settings > system > clipboard)

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Dunno then, maybe it's actually on and glitching, even though it's should be off, maybe cycle it? ...lol sorry I really have no clue, just fishing in the dark right now. GL!
 
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Ameraves Ameraves
Obviously... Ignore what follows if you've already decided to re-install Windows. =)

Ameraves said:
Alright, so I just rebooted and ran a stop watch to make sure I wasn't crazy. It was at the Asus loading screen for about 3:35, and then the lights on my keyboard lit up and it got to the Windows screen about 10 seconds later.
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Changed the BIOS to fullscreen, and now it just shows the Windows logo instead of the Asus logo after POST and that is where it takes 3+ minutes to fully boot up.
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These two statements seem to contradict each other, yet I believe what happened was... changing the BIOS screen mode just allowed the Windows loading screen to appear, when for some reason before it was being hidden. (I had something like this happen years ago, in my case I got a black screen, and my desktop would appear magically later on.)

So I don't think you have a BIOS/Boot/Hardware issue at all. I think it's purely Windows dragging the chain. No POST errors, no "OS not found", no hard lockups requiring a reset. I just can't see a reason for a machine to stop for 3+ minutes, BEFORE Windows even begins loading, and THEN continue every time to the desktop.

Create a new text file on your desktop e.g. "Clearlogs.cmd" - Edit and insert these 2 lines:

FOR /F "tokens=*" %%1 IN ('wevtutil.exe el') DO wevtutil.exe cl "%%1"
pause

Run this batch file (as Admin or you will get pages of access denied errors) and it will completely nuke your event logs. Reboot and Windows will have a fresh set of logs for you to inspect just for that restart. I'm kinda interested to see what the culprit is.
 
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Argarth said:
Ameraves Ameraves
Obviously... Ignore what follows if you've already decided to re-install Windows. =)





These two statements seem to contradict each other, yet I believe what happened was... changing the BIOS screen mode just allowed the Windows loading screen to appear, when for some reason before it was being hidden. (I had something like this happen years ago, in my case I got a black screen, and my desktop would appear magically later on.)

So I don't think you have a BIOS/Boot/Hardware issue at all. I think it's purely Windows dragging the chain. No POST errors, no "OS not found", no hard lockups requiring a reset. I just can't see a reason for a machine to stop for 3+ minutes, BEFORE Windows even begins loading, and THEN continue every time to the desktop.

Create a new text file on your desktop e.g. "Clearlogs.cmd" - Edit and insert these 2 lines:

FOR /F "tokens=*" %%1 IN ('wevtutil.exe el') DO wevtutil.exe cl "%%1"
pause

Run this batch file (as Admin or you will get pages of access denied errors) and it will completely nuke your event logs. Reboot and Windows will have a fresh set of logs for you to inspect just for that restart. I'm kinda interested to see what the culprit is.
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I have not yet re-installed. I got busy with some other things last night and had to stop tinkering.

I believe you are correct that it is just the OS. When I changed the setting it did 2 things. One let me see the boot up info, and then it went to the next screen instead of showing the Asus splash logo, it just showed the Windows one. So I think it was always at the OS already, and it was just taking forever to load up. Does that make sense?

Anyway, I ran the batch file. Which error logs would you like to see?
 
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Do you have a spare HDD or something you can install Windows onto?

Go here

Windows 10 Fall Creators Update 1709 Download • Windows ISO

windowsiso.net windowsiso.net

Grab Standard W10 ISO. You don't need a key.

Put it on a thumbdrive with this

Download Windows USB/DVD Download Tool from Official Microsoft Download Center

www.microsoft.com www.microsoft.com

Once it's flashed, go into your BIOS and make sure the thumb drive is the first bootable drive....then load Windows from it on whatever HDD you swapped into the SSD spot.

Make sure the spare HHD is the only one in your system, otherwise you could nuke your main W10 install.

It should only take about 10-15 minutes to load Windows 10 onto a fresh drive. If it boots quickly, then you have a W10 issue on your main drive. DO a backup of your stuff and reinstall W10.

If it is still slow, then you have to start juggling hardware.
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I don't have a spare unfortunately. I just have the one SSD inside the computer (it's a really small tower), and then the 3 HDD's in the external enclosure.
 
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Ameraves said:
So I think it was always at the OS already, and it was just taking forever to load up. Does that make sense?
Anyway, I ran the batch file. Which error logs would you like to see?
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Makes sense. Get a clean set of logs from a restart > right click on "Administrative Events" > Save All Events in Custom View As... > Upload the .evtx file to a Sharing Site and post the link.

I'll take a look at it when I get home from work later on today.
 
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