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Sucks, that site was better than all of the other eq sites, even for TLPs because it showed the spawn groups and spawn locations of mobs.
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Daybreak Sues The Heroes Journey EQ EMU Server Devs
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DickTrickle
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Clearly you don't remember much about Suineg because he could be as big an asshole and troll as anyone else. His actual problem was being being bipolar with the way he interacted and treated people and then was all surprised that they didn't engage with him exactly how he wanted.
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Makes a lot of sense, when people don't do exactly what I want all the time I HATE them too.
You all need Jesus in your life.
Daybreak owns the IP. Thou shall not steal.
Daybreak owns the IP. Thou shall not steal.
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Mail daybreak $15 a month and you shall be cleansed of your sins.
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General Antony
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If they come here and read this I want it on the record that I support the use of violence as a legitimate response to these lawsuits. If I was sitting in the Oval I would absolutely let Mr Luigi loose with a vector to DBG.
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in an industry where IP means nothing and daybreak is constantly stealing concepts from more profitable games because they have no vision at all for the IPs that they purchased I must say this post probably truly resonates with the FOH community.
My point is at this point the actual argument behind eq being intellectual property is dead because of the people that owned it are more guilty of its bastardization.
You can come in here and just say some simple shit like this but I think it makes you look like a retarded faggot.
Either that or you are clearly on daybeaks payroll.
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Adrullan Online looks pretty damn good.
Not surprised they had to change the name, though. Their main theme is so much like the EQ main theme that it's got a Vanilla Ice "no, ours goes like this, and theirs goes like this" vibe.
The EQ-ness in general is palpable. They even show a huge train chasing someone to the zoneline at one point in the trailer. They definitely "get it".
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I recently saw some WoW emu thing show up on Youtube on a non-gaming video and it caught me off guard. Microsoft is slackin', yo.
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Wasnt making a legal argument, I was making an argument that most people here could give a fuck about whatever daybreak is arguing.
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I worked on EQ emus for 10 years so here's my take.
I don't blame Daybreak for shutting down emus that are profiting from their IP like this. Some of us emu guys are mad because they're not only profiting from Daybreak's assets but also our emu dev work. They broke the big rule. This brings heat down on all of us. The reason why there are not many more emu servers is BECAUSE we can't profit from them, and even if we could legally it's still a shitty thing to do. THJ's contributions to their own server/game amount to like 3% of the total code and asset base. Make up any number you like here but it's a single digit for sure.
I however do not like long copyrights. I would generally agree that EQ's earliest eras should be public domain by now, however THJ is using a much more modern client. The server wouldn't exist if the modern clients weren't available. Thanks to evil Disney copyrights last an eternity so that's the law.
My motivation for spending so much time on the emus is to preserve the game before it's lost forever. I consider myself a game preservationist/archeologist first and foremost. Most of my work is server agnostic and just researching how the game worked at a highly detailed level, and collecting mob stats. (I'm mostly retired from this) Daybreak is a company and thus only concerned about profit. EQ to me is a great cultural artifact that requires preservation. I want people 1000 years from now to be able to play it as it was like in 1999. When Daybreak changes the game over time, this is damaging the cultural artifact. It's like rewriting an old masterpiece of literature for a modern audience. I tried to save EQ from being erased. Modern EQ is not real EQ to me. If they kept a real classic server running then Project 1999 and TAKP wouldn't need to exist.
I did receive some donations for my emu work. The sum amounted to a very rough estimate of less than 10 cents an hour for my labor if you count every hour from 2013, which I would have done regardless. I never asked for a donation; people just offered unsolicited. I do think small unsolicited donations are fine and hopefully this doesn't make me a hypocrite. Anyway, hopefully Daybreak's lawyers don't go crazy with the litigation, because there are no winners in that scenario.
I don't blame Daybreak for shutting down emus that are profiting from their IP like this. Some of us emu guys are mad because they're not only profiting from Daybreak's assets but also our emu dev work. They broke the big rule. This brings heat down on all of us. The reason why there are not many more emu servers is BECAUSE we can't profit from them, and even if we could legally it's still a shitty thing to do. THJ's contributions to their own server/game amount to like 3% of the total code and asset base. Make up any number you like here but it's a single digit for sure.
I however do not like long copyrights. I would generally agree that EQ's earliest eras should be public domain by now, however THJ is using a much more modern client. The server wouldn't exist if the modern clients weren't available. Thanks to evil Disney copyrights last an eternity so that's the law.
My motivation for spending so much time on the emus is to preserve the game before it's lost forever. I consider myself a game preservationist/archeologist first and foremost. Most of my work is server agnostic and just researching how the game worked at a highly detailed level, and collecting mob stats. (I'm mostly retired from this) Daybreak is a company and thus only concerned about profit. EQ to me is a great cultural artifact that requires preservation. I want people 1000 years from now to be able to play it as it was like in 1999. When Daybreak changes the game over time, this is damaging the cultural artifact. It's like rewriting an old masterpiece of literature for a modern audience. I tried to save EQ from being erased. Modern EQ is not real EQ to me. If they kept a real classic server running then Project 1999 and TAKP wouldn't need to exist.
I did receive some donations for my emu work. The sum amounted to a very rough estimate of less than 10 cents an hour for my labor if you count every hour from 2013, which I would have done regardless. I never asked for a donation; people just offered unsolicited. I do think small unsolicited donations are fine and hopefully this doesn't make me a hypocrite. Anyway, hopefully Daybreak's lawyers don't go crazy with the litigation, because there are no winners in that scenario.
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