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I am going to upgrade my mobo/cpu/ram later this summer. What would you recommend?
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I am going to upgrade my mobo/cpu/ram later this summer. What would you recommend?
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Depends what you do. If its strictly for gaming, go with latest i7. Its still best for gaming. If you do more than that on your comp, go ryzen 2700x, they are both pretty much on par performance wise, but for multitasking and shit, streaming, photoshop, video encoding, shit like that all around better performer would be Ryzen. In fact Ryzen is cheaper so you get more for your bang IMO. Sure you will lose out 10fps on games, but you gain so much more in multitasking with the extra 2 cores.
The thing with the memory is Basically any 3200 that is CL14 is b-die and it will work. Samsung b-die is the shit that works.
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Yeah I don't do anything other than entertain myself with games and shit and code/develop shit on my home setup. No video or anything.
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If you go AMD:
My Ryzen upgrade has been great so far, Ryzen 2700X with DDR4 3200MHz CL14 RAM worked like a charm out of box with easy BIOS settings for XMP profile RAM OC on the Asus Crosshair VII. (Desktop Computers) . Actually planning on upgrading and consolidating a few more dev & testing systems to both AM4 and Threadripper around end of 2019/20. Just waiting to see how the Threadripper 2 performs and how well Zen 2 Epycs bake out on 7nm in 2019.
- Any Ryzen 2600 or higher on an X470 MB should be a decent choice, with cheaper X450 Motherboards just around corner this summer.
- In 2019 can expect upgrade to 7nm Ryzens with decent IPC uplift (10-15% rumoured)
- I would *avoid* 1x00 Ryzens (both AM4 and Threadripper) because of finicky RAM overclocking compatibility and potential gcc bug (on Linux at least).
You might like extra cores on Ryzen for dev stuff. On Linux, gcc dev tools, VMs perform quite nicely with extra cores. For this summer I would not hesitate to recommend a second gen Ryzen setup.
My Ryzen upgrade has been great so far, Ryzen 2700X with DDR4 3200MHz CL14 RAM worked like a charm out of box with easy BIOS settings for XMP profile RAM OC on the Asus Crosshair VII. (Desktop Computers) . Actually planning on upgrading and consolidating a few more dev & testing systems to both AM4 and Threadripper around end of 2019/20. Just waiting to see how the Threadripper 2 performs and how well Zen 2 Epycs bake out on 7nm in 2019.
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Also it should be noted that with most games your gpu is going to do most of the heavy lifting if you are gaming at 1440p or higher, so fps start to even out regardless of what cpu(8700k vs 2700x) you go for.
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Can you link something that counts as that type of RAM specifically? Google just overwhelms me with shit. If RAM compatibility is so important for AMD I really don't want to order the wrong thing.
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I just used B-Die Finder to find/verify some Bdie SKUs on Newegg etc. Honestly not sure you still need to bother with b-dies for a Ryzen 2700x, I did it just in case. Click the lowest timings you can afford for RAM set size you want.Note: I'm no expert on overclocking but I Spoilered below what I gathered browsing around a lil before upgrading.
(1) On DDR4 overclocking.... Aim for DDR4 @ at least 3200MHz with CAS 14.
Ryzen performance benefits grealy and scales really well with RAM speed (see (4) Zen Cache & Memory below) This seems to be a common, easy to reach sweet spot for performance without much cost or hassle.
(2) DDR4 DIMM configs. One DIMM per channel:
Important for best chance @ compatibility & success overclocking RAM. Unless they do not make the size, get a singe DIMM per channel even if you have 4 DIMM slots. So on system with 2 channel memory you want:
Infinity Fabric runs @ 1/2 DDR4 ram speed (something AMD uses to fetch L3 data between cores on different L3 clusters/CCXs)
Increase RAM speed and all those L3 cache fetches run faster too. Big deal for Zen especially if your application is not optimized to be NUMA aware for Zen (like most games). Better L3 fetches means more FPS, as shit all fetches faster without fiddling or optimizing.
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Ryzen performance benefits grealy and scales really well with RAM speed (see (4) Zen Cache & Memory below) This seems to be a common, easy to reach sweet spot for performance without much cost or hassle.
(2) DDR4 DIMM configs. One DIMM per channel:
Important for best chance @ compatibility & success overclocking RAM. Unless they do not make the size, get a singe DIMM per channel even if you have 4 DIMM slots. So on system with 2 channel memory you want:
- 32 GB get 16GB DIMMs x 2. ( If you got 8 GB DIMMs x 4 (multiple dimms per channel) it *might* work but has a higher chance of complications/failure)
- 16 GB get 8 GB DIMMs x 2 ( as opposed to 4 GB x 4).
- My 32GB was F4-3200C14D-32GTZR SKU: G.SKILL TridentZ RGB Series 32GB (2 x 16GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600) Desktop Memory Model F4-3200C14D-32GTZR - Newegg.com
- Nice 16 GB set TDPRD416G3200HC14ADC01 SKU is: Team Dark Pro 16GB (2 x 8GB) 288-Pin DDR4 SDRAM DDR4 3200 (PC4 25600) Desktop Memory Model TDPRD416G3200HC14ADC01 - Newegg.com
- If you wanted 64 GB on a 2 channel system you would have to risk two 32 GB kits.
Infinity Fabric runs @ 1/2 DDR4 ram speed (something AMD uses to fetch L3 data between cores on different L3 clusters/CCXs)
Increase RAM speed and all those L3 cache fetches run faster too. Big deal for Zen especially if your application is not optimized to be NUMA aware for Zen (like most games). Better L3 fetches means more FPS, as shit all fetches faster without fiddling or optimizing.
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Have some specific monitors in mind? Refresh rates? What are the specs on your computer?
Personally, I would lean towards the 1080p if it's 144hz so you can push the frame rate as close to that as possible. A 1440p might be a good middle ground.
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G-Sync is an absolute godsend. 1440p G-Sync with a 144hz monitor ( What I've used for the last 2 years ) is the only thing I would get right now or in the next few years. Downsample individual games with GeForce Experience for increased resolution as wanted. 120+FPS with everything on Ultra beats out 4k at 30-50 FPS for me.
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No way 1080p for 35 inches, way too small resolution for that size. I have a 27 inch 1080p screen and even that is a little too big.
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My only argument against that monitor would be it only having a 100hz refresh rate. Being an ultrawide 1440p monitor it would probably be fairly hard to hit 100 fps without dialing down the graphics a bit though. It's pretty much up to personal preference.
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I don't expect to hit 100FPS at that resolution, even with a 1080ti. I thought the purpose of the G-Sync was to keep the gaming buttery smooth even when you dip.
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I thought you were just referencing a Warren G & 50 cent mashup.
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