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wilkxus said:
Yep
4 cores in a compute complex (CCX) still.
Zen 2 has double L3 Cache per CCX though ! (16MB instead of 8MB)

* See Zen 2 Architecture @ Hexus.net
See CCX size @ Anandtech


Correct, those 4 cores already share the same single L3 cache. Only CPU to GPU communication goes over Infinity Fabric in APUs. Just remember that 2x00G APUs utilize Zen 1 cores. The upcoming 3x00G APUs utilize Zen 1 + cores (same as 2700x). Next years 4x00G APUs should utilize Zen 2 cores. Not known yet if these Zen2 APU will be on its own 4/8 core chiplet with a GPU chiplet or a monolithic Zen2+ GPU die. If next gen APUs have more than 4 cores they will like this patch.

You wont. But anyone with a multiple CCX configuration will see more predictable results with less inter CCX L3 ping pong. It should lift min fps some in games.
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I wonder if Cinebench R20 nT is a different build than what's on their website now. My 2600 w/16 GB 3200 ram hits 2886 in the current R20 build on their website.

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Things have progressed quite a bit since the original Ryzen memory problems & bugs. Wonder how long before we get HBM2 or hybrid based APUs?

Only slightly disappointing thing so far with Zen2 is the rollback of PCIe 4 upgradability on X470 boards.... they say you can *try* it with older BIOSes if youre adventurous, but it might be a lil risky playing corruption games on an NVMe pcie4 ssd lol. Time will tell I guess. First time AMD finds itself leading Intel in so many areas so def. a good move by AMD, would be nasty if people started whining about data corruption issues on their brand spanking new Zen2 upgrades hehe.
 
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Fucker said:
I found the same thing in the few benches I ran. It feels smoother, though.
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Well, after installing the latest MB BIOS and 1903 chip-set driver package, didn't see any improvements worth noting in the handful of gaming benchmarks I ran. Not really surprised since I wasn't testing at 1080p, (Ultrawide) and don't have much in the way of "hard' CPU limited games in my library anyway.

Oddly enough Cinebench R20.060 saw a consistent ~ 2% increase. I do agree though, 1903 does feel "smoother", "snappier" or some other such word. =)
 
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Mist said:
Clean installs generally feel snappier anyway.
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Agreed, however my last clean install was 1809. It takes me several hours to set things "just right" with a new installation, (and I've always got multiple images on hand) so I decided to upgrade this time around.

Since it all went so smoothly and has performed flawlessly ever since, I decided to stick with it. Scheduler changes or some other reason(s)? Who knows.
 
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Hah clean installs. Ive been running the same install of windows for 5 years now.

Ryzen 3000 going to be a huge upgrade for me.
 
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Argarth said:
Agreed, however my last clean install was 1809. It takes me several hours to set things "just right" with a new installation, (and I've always got multiple images on hand) so I decided to upgrade this time around.

Since it all went so smoothly and has performed flawlessly ever since, I decided to stick with it. Scheduler changes or some other reason(s)? Who knows.
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I did back to back fresh installs of 180x and 1903, and 1903 is altogether crisp compared to 180x on my Ryzen box. I didn't notice anything on my Intel boxes. I'm pretty sure their scheduler fixes are baked into 1903, and not driver specific.

Either way, I'm going to grab the 12c/24t as soon as it is available.

I have an AM4 conversion kit coming from Noctua that will let me fit my NH-D14 onto the AM4 platform. $8. Notctua coolers are super fucking quiet, so I'll be able to specify an aggressive fan setting so the 12c/24t will stay at max GHz for longer.
 
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Fucker said:
I did back to back fresh installs of 180x and 1903, and 1903 is altogether crisp compared to 180x on my Ryzen box. I didn't notice anything on my Intel boxes. I'm pretty sure their scheduler fixes are baked into 1903, and not driver specific.

Either way, I'm going to grab the 12c/24t as soon as it is available.

I have an AM4 conversion kit coming from Noctua that will let me fit my NH-D14 onto the AM4 platform. $8. Notctua coolers are super fucking quiet, so I'll be able to specify an aggressive fan setting so the 12c/24t will stay at max GHz for longer.
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The 12 core looks very nice indeed. I'm going to try to be somewhat patient (lol) and wait until all the dust has settled. To be honest I should probably wait for Zen 3. =)

I have an NH-U12P on my 2700x with 2 x Noctua fans in push- pull. (Yeah, that AM4 kit is a steal; at first I thought the price must have been a mistake!) Works very well and is super quiet even under heavy load, to the point that more fan speed/noise doesn't help much. I've had that thing for years, and doubt that I'll ever need another.
 
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I am looking at buying a PC and just getting a builder to build it. Got it quoted, I want a 1tb of SSD and some little other change but this is this lay out of the rig.

Case:
Spectrum Dark
Motherboard:
MSI MPG Z390 EDGE AC
Processor:
INTEL CORE i9 9900k 8C/16T 5.0GHz
Memory:
Xidax Extreme DDR4 2666MHz Memory - 16GB ( 16GB (2x8GB) )
Power Supply:
SEASONIC FOCUS GOLD 750W
Graphics Card:
NVIDIA RTX 2070 8GB GDDR6 ( Choose )
m.2 SSD:
M.2 Solid State 500GB ( 500GB M.2 )
HDD/SSD:
Western Digital Blue 1TB - 7200RPM 3.5" HDD ( 1TB HDD )
CPU Cooling:
Xidax 670LT CPU Cooler
CPU Paste:
Standard CPU Thermal Paste
GPU Paste:
Standard Graphics Card Thermal Paste
OS:
Windows 10 Home Premium 64-Bit
Anti-Virus:
Xidax Gaming Shield - Virus & Malware Protection
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They do, but monitors tend to have a bunch of misleading marketing/stats with them. Will have to wait until they're tested by a place like tftcentral.
 
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So what are is best 1440p/4k monitors? Might pickup one of the revised Nvidia cards next month and Ill need a new monitor to go with as my current one is a 27 inch 1080p.
 
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old ass htpc, i think it's a phenom2, randomly shuts, either at idle or movie or whatever. i'll see if the tim is dried out, i'm sure the powersupply is probably shot, ordered a seasonic
 
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