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Honestly right now prebuilt is the way to go. It’s fucking ridiculous trying to get gfx cards and chips right now. Building your own you’re likely to just get stuck missing components or compromising on what you want.

Example, I built my new pc months ago with a 3080 in mind to finish it but last night bought a 3070 because it’s the first thing I’ve been able to find in two months. And I consider myself lucky I even got it before the bots did. Prebuilt you wouldn’t have that problem and if you can afford the extra couple hundred it’s worth avoiding all the stress and months of waiting.
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Yeah, it's definitely a little annoying. I have multiple things sitting here to do an update for my build, but without being able to get a 5900x I don't want to fuck with it all. I've had the front distro plate for the O11-XL for quite some time, but I don't really want to dismantle my loop when I know I'm going to have to as soon as I actually manage to get a CPU
 
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Hateyou said:
Honestly right now prebuilt is the way to go. It’s fucking ridiculous trying to get gfx cards and chips right now. Building your own you’re likely to just get stuck missing components or compromising on what you want.

Example, I built my new pc months ago with a 3080 in mind to finish it but last night bought a 3070 because it’s the first thing I’ve been able to find in two months. And I consider myself lucky I even got it before the bots did. Prebuilt you wouldn’t have that problem and if you can afford the extra couple hundred it’s worth avoiding all the stress and months of waiting.
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Thanks for the insight, H.Y. I haven't priced out a build that I'd be interested in doing, but I did find a pre-built that looked good (though still without a mega GFX card) for $2,800.

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Not cheap, but I have seen some for double that. Still, it feels like it would be a compromise and for the price, that's tough to do.
 
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What's this about bios flashback? What is it, why do I need it, and why does not having it make it a deal breaker?
 
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What's this about bios flashback? What is it, why do I need it, and why does not having it make it a deal breaker?
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So since AMD has used the same socket for multiple generations, you can use multiple generations of their CPU on the same boards. However, you need to update the BIOS to use the new CPU's. Ordinarily you need a functioning CPU in the socket in order to update the BIOS, BIOS flashback allows you to update the BIOS without that.
 
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Aaron said:
What's this about bios flashback? What is it, why do I need it, and why does not having it make it a deal breaker?
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You can update the bios by just having the mobo hooked up to the power supply and having the update file on a USB plugged in to a designated slot. Press a button on the mobo and a few minutes later it powers down to show the update is complete. As slippery said, it allows you to update the bios on a mobo to support a newer cpu if you don't have an older one to put in just for the update.
 
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Alright homies, CP77 might be forcing my hand here.

Father Bisi needs a new compy. I'm only vaguely aware of what's good these days. words like GEFORCE 30x0 are thrown around.

NOTE: I went with Ryzen 9 bc me likes video editing
DOUBLE NOTE: This is in canada dollars

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 3900X 3.8 GHz 12-Core Processor ($605.66 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 RGB Black Edition 57.3 CFM CPU Cooler ($41.99 @ Best Buy)
Motherboard: MSI MEG X570 UNIFY ATX AM4 Motherboard ($299.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: G.Skill Aegis 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4-3000 CL16 Memory ($99.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Blue 1 TB M.2-2280 Solid State Drive ($103.99 @ Amazon)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce RTX 3080 10 GB FTW3 ULTRA GAMING Video Card ($821.49 @ Adorama)
Case: Corsair 275R Airflow ATX Mid Tower Case ($89.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: Corsair RM (2019) 850 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply ($134.99 @ Corsair)
Total: $2198.09
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
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3900x and 212 is like wearing a nice suit and slapping on a fanny pack

why!
 
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Denamian said:
You can update the bios by just having the mobo hooked up to the power supply and having the update file on a USB plugged in to a designated slot. Press a button on the mobo and a few minutes later it powers down to show the update is complete. As slippery said, it allows you to update the bios on a mobo to support a newer cpu if you don't have an older one to put in just for the update.
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yea i believe all 550s have it now, look on the BACK of the io, it'll have a dedicated usb/bios slot
 
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OK Thanks. Never had an AMD, though I've been thinking of upgrading to a 5900x. Will make sure I can update the bios for it this way.
 
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that's why I'm here asking, babycake

guidance pls
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the wraith cooler that comes with it will barely keep up , but so will the 212, but it'll work. if youre intending on getting more "oomph" out of your cpu (either with overclocking or auto oc) look towards a aio or beefy heatsink in the 50$ range or just a noctua d15

don't know what you want or how much you want to spend.

if you slap on a 90$ noctua theres no limit
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other than that, you might want to get a newer gen m2 hd, (but of course more money)

and a 750w is the bare min for a 3080 (i know you gonna get 850, but... thats tight)
 
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OK Thanks. Never had an AMD, though I've been thinking of upgrading to a 5900x. Will make sure I can update the bios for it this way.
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Just had to do this for my new build with a 5800x. It’s very simple, but is a fucking pain in the ass if you find out after the fact.
 
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Threelions said:
Just had to do this for my new build with a 5800x. It’s very simple, but is a fucking pain in the ass if you find out after the fact.
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I made that mistake in my build. Put it all together, went to update the bios only to realize I had to take the CPU, GPU and RAM out in order to flash the bios.
 
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the wraith cooler that comes with it will barely keep up , but so will the 212, but it'll work. if youre intending on getting more "oomph" out of your cpu (either with overclocking or auto oc) look towards a aio or beefy heatsink in the 50$ range or just a noctua d15

don't know what you want or how much you want to spend.

if you slap on a 90$ noctua theres no limit
fe2bdc423e9b440867f127b7e1aec749.png


other than that, you might want to get a newer gen m2 hd, (but of course more money)

and a 750w is the bare min for a 3080 (i know you gonna get 850, but... thats tight)
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Highly recommend the NH-D15S instead (just add a second fan). The fin stacks are offset towards the top for the board by a few mm which helps in clearing the top most PCIe slot on some boards. I have one system where I was forced to run the GPU in a lower slot at x8 mode because the cooler was blocking the slot. GPU was only a 1070 so not a real loss in performance but it might be for the newest GPUs. Also, GPUs with back-plates also extend slightly up above the slot and those few mm can help. This was a 4790k system (D14 fit, D15 didn't), but I believe most modern systems place a NMVe slot just below the CPU, so the offset of the D15s might not matter.

D15/D15s with second fan will also cover much of your ram (if you care about RGB) and you will have to raise the rear fan to clear tall ram heatsinks. The NH-U14s is typically only a few degrees (1-3c) worse than the D15, cheaper, and gives a bit more visibility of your (rgb) ram. Keep in mind you really cannot compare cooler performance cross-site and especially not on a message board post and expect to get those temps unless you are sure they are using the exact same settings. For example, the 3700x I am toying with now hits 59C max under P95 Small FFTs at pure stock up to 88C Small FFTs with high PBO limits. Same system, same cooler, same ambient.
 
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Put my overkill build together and got it finished up today. Case fans are Noctua chromax swap NF-S12A x 7 and radiator will eventually run in push/pull with NF-F12's (I fucking hate RGB). Still waiting for the Arctic Liquid Freezer to show up, using an old AIO until then.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 5950X 3.4 GHz 16-Core Processor (Purchased For $800.00)
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC LIQUID FREEZER II 360 56.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($250.00)
Motherboard: Asus ROG Crosshair VIII Dark Hero ATX AM4 Motherboard (Purchased For $400.00)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z Royal 32 GB (4 x 8 GB) DDR4-4000 CL15 Memory (Purchased For $450.00)
Storage: Samsung 970 EVO Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (Purchased For $250.00)
Storage: Western Digital Black SN850 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (Purchased For $450.00)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 24 GB FTW3 ULTRA GAMING Video Card (Purchased For $1800.00)
Case: Lian Li O11D XL-X ATX Full Tower Case (Purchased For $200.00)
Power Supply: Corsair AXi 1600 W 80+ Titanium Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (Purchased For $500.00)
Total: $5100.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-12-13 20:27 EST-0500
 
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jeydax said:
Put my overkill build together and got it finished up today. Case fans are Noctua chromax swap NF-S12A x 7 and radiator will eventually run in push/pull with NF-F12's (I fucking hate RGB). Still waiting for the Arctic Liquid Freezer to show up, using an old AIO until then.

PCPartPicker Part List

CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 5950X 3.4 GHz 16-Core Processor (Purchased For $800.00)
CPU Cooler: ARCTIC LIQUID FREEZER II 360 56.3 CFM Liquid CPU Cooler ($250.00)
Motherboard: Asus ROG Crosshair VIII Dark Hero ATX AM4 Motherboard (Purchased For $400.00)
Memory: G.Skill Trident Z Royal 32 GB (4 x 8 GB) DDR4-4000 CL15 Memory (Purchased For $450.00)
Storage: Samsung 970 EVO Plus 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (Purchased For $250.00)
Storage: Western Digital Black SN850 2 TB M.2-2280 NVME Solid State Drive (Purchased For $450.00)
Video Card: EVGA GeForce RTX 3090 24 GB FTW3 ULTRA GAMING Video Card (Purchased For $1800.00)
Case: Lian Li O11D XL-X ATX Full Tower Case (Purchased For $200.00)
Power Supply: Corsair AXi 1600 W 80+ Titanium Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply (Purchased For $500.00)
Total: $5100.00
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2020-12-13 20:27 EST-0500
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Some parts similar to mine but unsure why such a huge PSU - I use an 850 with my 3090 and 5950x as much as you put in it you should have just gone custom cooling
 
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