elcaro1101
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I am just excited to system build again, and not be looking at the minimum required specs list for games haha.
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Lanx
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if you've never installed a darkrock b4, the screw drivers they bundle is amazing i have like 3
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Jovec
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Given where you are coming from, the 270K Plus / 5070TI is going to be an amazing upgrade, and everything you are buying can be brought forward to a newer Intel or AMD build aside from the mobo and CPU.
Sometimes I'm as guilty as the next guy on focusing too much on Benchmarks, but in real-world gaming and productivity usage, the 270K Plus is only 5-10% behind AMD's X3Ds for gaming and about the same 5-10% behind AMD's 16c/32t CPUs for productivity. With a 5070TI as you increase the resolution and graphics settings, it will be a lot closer to the 5% mark than 10%.
In the current market, X3D does allow you to base spec the RAM speed with a very small performance decrease (1-2%), whereas Intel really wants and needs fast memory for the best gaming performance. In that same theme, Gen 5 NVMe drives are virtually no different than Gen 4 for real-world random read/write usage, so they are another area you can cost down. Or at least I would probably consider a Gen 4 drive with high random read/write performance for the OS drive and the Gen 5 drive for gaming where the ~2x sequential read/write speeds might help a little.
Next gen Intel gets their own version of X3D, 3 CPU generations promised on the same socket, and a very large large core/thread count increase, so it will be better that the 270K Plus in every way. I'd expect it to match or beat current Zen 6 for gaming (though again at higher resolutions/settings on anything other than a 5090, the difference will be small) and it will solidly trounce the current 16c/32t AMD lineup. AMD needs a better IMC (major reason why non-X3D Zen 5 wasn't a big upgrade) and will compete with 12c/24t CCDs for 24c/48t at the high end, with all 24 cores being the the full core rather than Intel's hybrid with 3 types of cores.
Sometimes I'm as guilty as the next guy on focusing too much on Benchmarks, but in real-world gaming and productivity usage, the 270K Plus is only 5-10% behind AMD's X3Ds for gaming and about the same 5-10% behind AMD's 16c/32t CPUs for productivity. With a 5070TI as you increase the resolution and graphics settings, it will be a lot closer to the 5% mark than 10%.
In the current market, X3D does allow you to base spec the RAM speed with a very small performance decrease (1-2%), whereas Intel really wants and needs fast memory for the best gaming performance. In that same theme, Gen 5 NVMe drives are virtually no different than Gen 4 for real-world random read/write usage, so they are another area you can cost down. Or at least I would probably consider a Gen 4 drive with high random read/write performance for the OS drive and the Gen 5 drive for gaming where the ~2x sequential read/write speeds might help a little.
Next gen Intel gets their own version of X3D, 3 CPU generations promised on the same socket, and a very large large core/thread count increase, so it will be better that the 270K Plus in every way. I'd expect it to match or beat current Zen 6 for gaming (though again at higher resolutions/settings on anything other than a 5090, the difference will be small) and it will solidly trounce the current 16c/32t AMD lineup. AMD needs a better IMC (major reason why non-X3D Zen 5 wasn't a big upgrade) and will compete with 12c/24t CCDs for 24c/48t at the high end, with all 24 cores being the the full core rather than Intel's hybrid with 3 types of cores.
Springbok
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I just built a system with that cpu and I'm loving it. Noticeably better than my 7700x, and don't have any timing ram issues like I have had with AMD. Intel finally pulling heads out of asses, only downside is it's on a dead socket, but really wgaf.
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Noodleface
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Denamian
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They used to future proof their profits, but they're even failing at that now.
Does AM4 qualify as undead at this point?
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Noodleface
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I think so?? Because they rereleased some cpus. I'm not some brand loyalist or think they did this to be altruistic or anything but that's just pro consumer for me .
I work with all the cpu vendors at a capacity most don't and AMD is the best to work with. Intel i actually can't imagine being any worse, like bottom of the barrel support.