elcaro1101
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I am just excited to system build again, and not be looking at the minimum required specs list for games haha.
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Lanx
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if you've never installed a darkrock b4, the screw drivers they bundle is amazing i have like 3
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Given where you are coming from, the 270K Plus / 5070TI is going to be an amazing upgrade, and everything you are buying can be brought forward to a newer Intel or AMD build aside from the mobo and CPU.
Sometimes I'm as guilty as the next guy on focusing too much on Benchmarks, but in real-world gaming and productivity usage, the 270K Plus is only 5-10% behind AMD's X3Ds for gaming and about the same 5-10% behind AMD's 16c/32t CPUs for productivity. With a 5070TI as you increase the resolution and graphics settings, it will be a lot closer to the 5% mark than 10%.
In the current market, X3D does allow you to base spec the RAM speed with a very small performance decrease (1-2%), whereas Intel really wants and needs fast memory for the best gaming performance. In that same theme, Gen 5 NVMe drives are virtually no different than Gen 4 for real-world random read/write usage, so they are another area you can cost down. Or at least I would probably consider a Gen 4 drive with high random read/write performance for the OS drive and the Gen 5 drive for gaming where the ~2x sequential read/write speeds might help a little.
Next gen Intel gets their own version of X3D, 3 CPU generations promised on the same socket, and a very large large core/thread count increase, so it will be better that the 270K Plus in every way. I'd expect it to match or beat current Zen 6 for gaming (though again at higher resolutions/settings on anything other than a 5090, the difference will be small) and it will solidly trounce the current 16c/32t AMD lineup. AMD needs a better IMC (major reason why non-X3D Zen 5 wasn't a big upgrade) and will compete with 12c/24t CCDs for 24c/48t at the high end, with all 24 cores being the the full core rather than Intel's hybrid with 3 types of cores.
Sometimes I'm as guilty as the next guy on focusing too much on Benchmarks, but in real-world gaming and productivity usage, the 270K Plus is only 5-10% behind AMD's X3Ds for gaming and about the same 5-10% behind AMD's 16c/32t CPUs for productivity. With a 5070TI as you increase the resolution and graphics settings, it will be a lot closer to the 5% mark than 10%.
In the current market, X3D does allow you to base spec the RAM speed with a very small performance decrease (1-2%), whereas Intel really wants and needs fast memory for the best gaming performance. In that same theme, Gen 5 NVMe drives are virtually no different than Gen 4 for real-world random read/write usage, so they are another area you can cost down. Or at least I would probably consider a Gen 4 drive with high random read/write performance for the OS drive and the Gen 5 drive for gaming where the ~2x sequential read/write speeds might help a little.
Next gen Intel gets their own version of X3D, 3 CPU generations promised on the same socket, and a very large large core/thread count increase, so it will be better that the 270K Plus in every way. I'd expect it to match or beat current Zen 6 for gaming (though again at higher resolutions/settings on anything other than a 5090, the difference will be small) and it will solidly trounce the current 16c/32t AMD lineup. AMD needs a better IMC (major reason why non-X3D Zen 5 wasn't a big upgrade) and will compete with 12c/24t CCDs for 24c/48t at the high end, with all 24 cores being the the full core rather than Intel's hybrid with 3 types of cores.
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I just built a system with that cpu and I'm loving it. Noticeably better than my 7700x, and don't have any timing ram issues like I have had with AMD. Intel finally pulling heads out of asses, only downside is it's on a dead socket, but really wgaf.
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Noodleface
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Denamian
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They used to future proof their profits, but they're even failing at that now.
Does AM4 qualify as undead at this point?
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Noodleface
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I think so?? Because they rereleased some cpus. I'm not some brand loyalist or think they did this to be altruistic or anything but that's just pro consumer for me .
I work with all the cpu vendors at a capacity most don't and AMD is the best to work with. Intel i actually can't imagine being any worse, like bottom of the barrel support.
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Over 2 years with ZERO problems with my PC and yesterday I come home to the PC running but monitor blank/on standby. Hard reset, PC boots and goes to Windows Restarting with a quick flicker to Windows Updating before the screen blanks out again and goes on standby.
Fuck my ass.
Fuck my ass.
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Brikker
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Yeah, havent tried the basic troubleshooting yet cause I barely have time to use my PC in any manner
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darkmiasma
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Yeah, havent tried the basic troubleshooting yet cause I barely have time to use my PC in any manner
Good luck. No clue what you have in your system, but if you have an AMD video card (I do) - Windows Update will sometimes overwrite your drivers with older ones and cause it to screw up badly, especially with dual screens. I haven't been able to use a driver newer than 26.1.1 or the display will freeze and the system will lock up. Its the hardware acceleration in browsers and discord, but they occasionally turn back on and then it will happen again. Doesn't seem to happen on 26.1.1 though.
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darkmiasma
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Well your problem happened to me last night - I have the same thing 7900XT and dual monitors. I installed 26.9.1 since I wanted to see if the problems got resolved and within a day or two I was getting the same issues as always. You can block it with a GPO (I can send you all the info if you want), but it was easiest to just roll back in safe mode.
www.reddit.com/r/amdhelp is full of people saying pretty much the same thing, it's been this way for years because of how microsoft is allowing their older drivers to overwrite what you specifically install.
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Lanx
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first thing you should do when you buy a new pc or make one
turn off windows update, it will brick your machine
been the rule for 20years
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7900xtx dual monitors I was having that problem with 1 monitor , turning off HW accel stopped it. FWIW I physically turn my machine off every night when I go to bed.
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So exactly which drivers are causing this shit to happen? What do I need to roll back?
*Edit: So I tried the Boot into Safe mode thing (turn off PC power @ MSI logo 3 times, boot 4th time) - it did the Automatic Repairs process and then seemingly restarted, again going to monitor signal loss. Turned off power, booted again, hit F11 to go to Boot Manager. Picked the first option (I forget what it was but maybe Windows Boot or something) and it booted to windows login normally. Seemingly working fine now.
Not sure what exactly caused this issue or how to prevent it in the future...
*2nd edit: welp, tried to boot into safe mode from windows desktop so I could do a clean install of a stable amd driver and that failed and went right back to the initial boot issue.
Fml
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Call me paranoid about NVMe, but I would find a way to work in one big ass Sata HDD to, if nothing else, just store a nightly image of the other 4 drives on... Just in case.
Don't know why I'm always weary of various SSD technologies.. but I am....
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I'm on 26.9.1 , staying on latest as they added FMR 4 for the 7000 series cards. I'll put below what I was doing to diagnose.
Issue i was having was the right monitor would go black at random times for no reason at all.
This is my notes from trying to figure out wtf myself. I put it on a windows sticky and update it when / if it doesn't work (which is why one is marked didn't work)
Common Causes and Solutions
Disable Multi-Plane Overlay (MPO): This is a frequent culprit for black screens in browsers like Chrome or when watching YouTube. Disabling MPO via registry edits or using tools like MPO Disable often resolves these specific video playback crashes without affecting gaming performance. DID THIS ONE 8/2/26 DID NOT WORK !!!!!! 8/10/26
Update or Roll Back Drivers: Recent AMD Adrenalin drivers (such as 25.5.1) have been reported to cause instability. Users found success by performing a clean driver install using DDU and reverting to older, stable versions like 24.5.1 or 25.3.1. Installing the "drivers only" version without the Adrenalin software suite can also eliminate overlay conflicts.
Check DisplayPort Cable and Settings: The RX 7900 XTX outputs high-bandwidth signals (DP 2.1) that can overwhelm older monitors (DP 1.2/1.4) or poor-quality cables. Ensure you are using a VESA-certified DisplayPort 1.4 or 2.1 cable. Additionally, disable FreeSync, Enhanced Sync, and Hardware Accelerated GPU Scheduling (HAGS) in Windows or AMD settings to test for stability. DID HAGS 8/10/26
Adjust TdrDelay: If the issue involves a driver timeout (black screen followed by a crash or restart), increasing the TdrDelay registry key from the default 2 seconds to 10 or 60 seconds can prevent Windows from forcibly resetting the GPU while decoding high-demand video streams.
Power Supply Stability: The RX 7900 XTX has significant power spikes. Ensure your PSU is at least 850W-1000W and that you are using native PCIe cables rather than daisy-chained adapters, as insufficient power delivery during video decoding can cause temporary
I already knew my cables were ok , in fact changing the right monitor to HDMI from DP removed my issues on that monitor entirely. I didn't mess with the delay as that usually is a can o worms so I dug further and this is where I am now. It's stopped everything as of the end of last month.
Sadly, not sure this is exactly a Windows or AMD issue, this shit is just so damn complex things break. AMD moved on so they could give 2 fucks about fixing last gen card, hell I'm plesantly surprised they got around to adding FMR 4.
Hope this helps bro!
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