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Mist

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It did before 1.5 volts became standard. 1.85 volt memory got very fucking hot.
 

Tuco

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Bro feel an exposed ram chip when it's being used, just be careful not to burn yourself. They are fine at 80C.

The ram sinks I got when I watercooled my GPU and left the ram exposed. Even with one of those ram sinks the ram became uncomfortably warm to the touch.
 

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I have quite an old motherboard -Motherboard - P6TD Deluxe - ASUS
ASUS P6TD Deluxe from around 2010 which has a 1366 chip slot. Using an i7 920 CPU overclocked to 2.8Mhz

I'm out of the loop on how much PC technology has evolved in the last few years.

Would I see a big difference in gaming throwing a few hundred pounds at a new motherboard and CPU ? Is it worth just upgrading the CPU ?
 

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I have quite an old motherboard -Motherboard - P6TD Deluxe - ASUS
ASUS P6TD Deluxe from around 2010 which has a 1366 chip slot. Using an i7 920 CPU overclocked to 2.8Mhz

I'm out of the loop on how much PC technology has evolved in the last few years.

Would I see a big difference in gaming throwing a few hundred pounds at a new motherboard and CPU ? Is it worth just upgrading the CPU ?
Not knowing what GPU you have, but I assume you would see greater benefits in gaming performance upgrading it over CPU/mobo.
 

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GFX not so old - GTX 670
Still a decent card but Wuwei is right. You would see a bigger performance gain spending $300 on a 970 video card than $300 on a new CPU/mobo. Very few games are effected significantly by the CPU. Upgrading from the oldest gen i7 to the newest gen i7 would probably be single digit percentage gains in most games.
 

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Flight get a new PC and come play archeage with us!!




I got the Corsair 200r and installed the parts I have (mobo/cpu/gpu/psu), I really like it so far. I'm building that PC for my dad but I think I'll get another 200r and use it myself. I feel like it's just the right size.
 

Mist

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Flight, that computer SHOULD still run pretty good. If it's not, there's something else wrong with it.

But if you are going to buy anything, don't buy a brand new video card for a motherboard with only PCIe 2.0 slots. That doesn't seem wise. You'd definitely want a new CPU and motherboard first.

My GTX 670 ran DA:I with everything on ultra except shadows and AA just fine. Definitely still a fine card, so if your PC isn't working right there's something else that needs investigation.
 

Joeboo

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Flight, that computer SHOULD still run pretty good. If it's not, there's something else wrong with it.

But if you are going to buy anything, don't buy a brand new video card for a motherboard with only PCIe 2.0 slots. That doesn't seem wise. You'd definitely want a new CPU and motherboard first.

My GTX 670 ran DA:I with everything on ultra except shadows and AA just fine. Definitely still a fine card, so if your PC isn't working right there's something else that needs investigation.
Agree with all of that. The PCIE 2.0 vs 3.0 really makes zero difference right now, with any video card at any resolution. But, in theory, it *could* make a difference in the future. I don't see that changing significantly in the next couple years though. By the time 3.0 matters, you'd probably need a new card besides a 970 anyways.

Impact of PCI-E Speed on Gaming Performance - Puget Custom Computers

So I guess the overall answer would be, an i7 970 is perfectly fineright now. I won't try to predict what gaming will be like and how different processors/chipsets could effect that several years down the road though. a new i7 4690 would definitely be more future-proof than an i7 970, but as of today there is little difference(for gaming)
 

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Still a decent card but Wuwei is right. You would see a bigger performance gain spending $300 on a 970 video card than $300 on a new CPU/mobo. Very few games are effected significantly by the CPU. Upgrading from the oldest gen i7 to the newest gen i7 would probably be single digit percentage gains in most games.
This. I just upgraded from a 920 myself and the difference in performance is slight. On the other hand there are some nice benefits besides gaming performance to upgrading from an old ass 1366 board that I have greatly enjoyed;

UEFI BIOS
Boot times 3x shorter
SATA3 giving actual SATA3 performance(this is a huge upgrade itself)
Cooler/more power efficient rig
More USB3 slots
 

Mist

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You guys are confusing the i920 and the i970. The i970 was a high end chip for X58 motherboards, the i920 the high end of a midrange line for P55 boards.
 

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nMEDIAPC Red Wood Wood HTPC Case - Newegg.com

dumb case for HTPC, or best case for HTPC?

I'm looking for something with a minimal depth that has an optical drive facing outward. This one does it in 11".
What HTPC features do you need? You want the volume dial and LCD panel? Or rather, why aren't you looking at regular desktop cases? Also, how many internal bays? Full-height of half-height (for expansion cards)?

Also, the Overview description lists different dimensions so I'd double check.

A short 14.4in. depth allows the unit to sit on narrower shelves and tables compared to a standard hi-fi-style case, and its dimensions accurately replicate the scale of the old radios it resembles. Likewise, its 19.7in. width and 11.0in. height will look great anywhere!
I use aLL PC-C50. I previously used aLL PC-C34Fbecause it had an internal MCE receiver, but I didn't realize it was RF and I wanted IR to go along with my Harmony remote. I was able to remove the RF unit and MacGyver in one of those USB MCE IR receivers in it's place. Now I'm not sure why I stopped using that case...
 

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You guys are confusing the i920 and the i970. The i970 was a high end chip for X58 motherboards, the i920 the high end of a midrange line for P55 boards.
Uhm. No. X58 is for the 1366 line which includes the i920. P55 is for the i5 line, IIRC.
 

Mist

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Okay, yup, you're right. I thought the i7 920 was in the same line as the i7 860. It's actually an older Nehalem chip.
 

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can i get a quick dirty list for building a gaming computer in the 1000 dollar range with todays components. It's for a friend so I'm not holding yous to any chipset or manufacturer. Thanks!
 

Tuco

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Sure, here's a recent one that is very close to what I made:
Thanks for all the help in the past few weeks from Joeboo and others.

I was able to piece together the following for a pretty decent price:

PCPartPicker part list/Price breakdown by merchant

CPU:Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor(Purchased For $195.00)
CPU Cooler:Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler(Purchased For $31.00)
Motherboard:MSI Z97 U3 Plus ATX LGA1150 Motherboard(Purchased For $90.00)
Memory:G.Skill Ripjaws X Series 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory(Purchased For $74.50)
Storage:Crucial MX100 256GB 2.5" Solid State Drive(Getting this for Christmas)
Storage:Seagate Barracuda 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive(Purchased For $44.00)
Video Card:EVGA GeForce GTX 970 4GB Superclocked ACX 2.0 Video Card(Purchased For $352.00)
Case:Fractal Design Define R4 Blackout ATX Mid Tower Case(Purchased For $93.00)
Power Supply:Corsair CX 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply(Purchased For $55.00)
Operating System:Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit)(Still need to pick this up or try to re-use my existing copy)
Total:$934.50
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-02 00:34 EST-0500

Now just to put it all together!
 

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can i get a quick dirty list for building a gaming computer in the 1000 dollar range with todays components. It's for a friend so I'm not holding yous to any chipset or manufacturer. Thanks!
Here is the original that Joeboo did up for me that I based my build on:

PCPartPicker part list/Price breakdown by merchant

CPU:Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor($219.98 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard:Asus Maximus VI Hero ATX LGA1150 Motherboard($139.99 @ Newegg)
Memory:Crucial Ballistix Sport 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1600 Memory($72.99 @ Amazon)
Storage:Samsung 840 EVO 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive($119.99 @ Best Buy)
Case:Cooler Master HAF XM (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case($124.99 @ NCIX US)
Power Supply:SeaSonic G-750 750W 80+ Gold Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply($114.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Operating System:Microsoft Windows 8.1 (OEM) (64-bit)($89.98 @ OutletPC)
Total:$882.91
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-19 16:07 EST-0500

Use either a R9 290x or GTX970 depending on budget or preference for AMD vs. nVidia.


And here is pcpartpicker's current $1000 build for another reference:

PCPartPicker part list/Price breakdown by merchant

CPU:Intel Core i5-4690K 3.5GHz Quad-Core Processor($219.98 @ OutletPC)
CPU Cooler:Phanteks PH-TC14PE_BK 78.1 CFM CPU Cooler($69.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard:Gigabyte GA-Z97-HD3 ATX LGA1150 Motherboard($107.75 @ OutletPC)
Memory:*Corsair Vengeance 8GB (1 x 8GB) DDR3-1866 Memory($54.99 @ Newegg)
Storage:*Transcend SSD370 128GB 2.5" Solid State Drive($59.99 @ Amazon)
Storage:*Hitachi Ultrastar 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive($48.00 @ Amazon)
Video Card:*Zotac GeForce GTX 970 4GB Video Card($325.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Case:Fractal Design Core 3500 ATX Mid Tower Case($65.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply:Corsair CX 600W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply($69.98 @ Newegg)
Total:$1022.66
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
*Lowest price parts chosen from parametric criteria
Generated by PCPartPicker 2014-12-19 16:11 EST-0500