Diablo 4 / IV / IIII / Fore / Cope / Seethe
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Arden
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I mean, you have me at D2+, but you'd lose me at paywalls and microtrans. I'd love a D2 spiritual successor, but that shit ruins games for me.
Khane
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Well less that's its the franchise with the best ARPG feel and more that it's the original. Even the people in here complaining want it to be good because of that. A return to glory.
I've played most ARPGs, for my money Grim Dawn has the best ARPG "feel". It just doesn't have a true multi-player experience or developer driven seasons/leagues. Though there are modded leagues.
PD2 is D2+
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Welcome to 2023, where pretty much all game companies try to pilfer their digital wares on you. Some are more obtrusive than others, but this one at least so far is not. Just dont buy the shit. I have not purchased anything digital other than a few wow tokens over the years. As to the price of the game? Its what, $70? I bought he deluxe for $80 so I could play earlier and get season 1. Ill tell you this, I got about 30-40? hours of story and grind out of my first character so far and hes like 52. Just hit and scratched the end game and prob hit up 1/32 of all the dungeons. And thats not even including the alts I wanna try. I mean to each their own. Ive bough games that had 1/2, shit 1/4, content of this for $60 before many times.
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Xevy
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So I saw your neck and I'm not sure if this is intentional or not, but there MAY be a bug with items basically getting an inherent 50-100% to all stats on Sacreds. I got some 2hand sword at 50, not a named, just a rare Sacred, had fucking 1700 dps and the IMPLICIT instead of like 11-15% crit strike damage was 49%. Guildmate had the same thing happen. Even 10+ levels later I've not seen anything DPS wise that touches it.
Definitely some bug which actually seems kind of fun, because it makes it worth while to check all the rares you'd otherwise just shard or sell immediately.
Arden
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No issue dropping 70 on a game that plays l like D2, so long as I can ignore microtrans and not feel like I'm missing out. I really didn't like D3 though, so that's why I'm a little gun shy on D4.
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GuardianX
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It's immortal and WoW thats making me trigger-shy.
Immortal still flies under the blizzard flag with tons of Micro Trans, people can make excuses all they want for it..it's still a pay to win game sitting under their name.
WoW (Diablo 3 and destiny 2 as well) pushed the idea of immediacy of DLC via content vaulting. WoW with prior quest content going away, Destiny 2 with worlds going away, Diablo 3 with seasonal (albeit, free, content) content going away each season.
It all just sets a precedent of expectations that I just wanna wait out a bit and see what "New Mangement" has in store for it's consumers.
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Mizake
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That’s a calculus you can only figure out for yourself. At the end of the day, will spending X dollars give me enough value to justify the purchase?
And it’s not about reading threads of games you are on the fence on. It’s shitposting on threads you are on the fence on. Some weird form of virtue signaling that you refuse to buy a game others are enjoying, so you have to make them feel bad about it? Or share the fact you won’t buy it when no one really gives a fuck whether you do or not?
Clearly you don’t think the game is worth $70. We got it the first 5 times you told us. Plenty of people on this forum have stated the game is actually good. I haven’t heard anybody on this forum yet who has regretted purchasing the game.
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Xevy
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As far as we've seen micro transactions are purely cosmetic. As far as D2 or D3, this game is very much D3.5 so if you didn't like D3, I don't think it'd change your mind much.
Mist
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Eh, there's a lot of systems borrowed from D3 but Helltides and the PvP zones are already more fun than anything D3 had.
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Mizake
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Absolutely Blizzard doesn’t get a free pass. And Immortal has to be one of the shittiest games ever released, mobile or not. Anybody who spent a penny on Immortal should be ashamed of themselves. That definitely gave me pause on buying D4.
With that said, the beta sold me on taking a chance on buying D4. It could still end up being a shit game bogged down by shitty balance changes and micro transactions, but so far it’s been a good experience. I’m actually surprised how smooth the gameplay has been, I though for sure it would be a typical Blizzard release where I crash constantly and the game is unplayable for a few days a la WoW, but that hasn’t been the case so far.
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popsicledeath
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Well played. I was falling for your troll job until this. Almost had me.
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zombiewizardhawk
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Glad to see we still got people who can't stay out of this thread because they just have to hop in every few hours and tell us how much this game is not worth playing, again.
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To me this is nothing like either game. Its its own thing, which is not a bad thing. I will say that this, at least what I have seen so far, is way better than D3. D2 is a classic so ita hard to tell if this one will top it. Its got a way to go for sure, but its got huge potential.
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Mist
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Buy a few tokens to sell now, use the gold to buy them back later when they crash back down.
Arbitrage.