Kuro
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This is why I'm eternally fucked in ARPGs, I have a need to full clear maps that murders my efficiency
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Diablo 4 / IV / IIII / Fore / Cope / Seethe
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Ritley
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They updated the patch notes, the reduction in goblin spawns was only in pvp areas.
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TheAylix
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To steal a famous quote: Whenever I hear a video game dev talk about their "vision", that's when I reach for my revolver.
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Nahh far from gutted, maybe a bit slower. By far the Barb was THE facto OP class in the game in end game content. I mean all I see is streams of Barbs carrying entire teams of people which dont do shit but stand there soaking up exp.
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Mizake
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What’s crazy is that no one at Blizzard can do math. Most of the dps can be planned out, spreadsheets, etc. Class imbalance is always gonna to happen, but not this kind of knee jerk reaction where you need to need something 50%…..like how could you not see that coming? Dont you have AI simulation runs that can chart clearing speeds for each class? If anything, money grabbing mobile gacha games show it can be done, those games rarely ever release a broken class, and most of their nerfs are modest.
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jayrebb
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Raxx said maxroll gave them all the data during closed beta. They had the Barbarian data for over a year and didn't do anything. Which is why every video he put out he has a disclaimer at the beginning that Blizzard is aware of X Y Z, and can act on that data at any time. They chose June 3rd should be the most concerning thing. It lacks goodwill.
Handle that 6 months ago. They didn't. It's a community goodwill problem more than anything. Blizzard KNEW these things months and months ago. They waited until YouTube videos released to act on it-- that's the most concerning thing.
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Kiroy
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sure it needed a nerf - should have been to damage/defense the shouts gave you vs you've gotta stand around an extra 6 seconds between refreshes and do nothing. Give me 6 seconds of activity and lower my damage/defense an equal amount. Should be easy math.
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This has been a Blizzard problem since forever. D3 limited their testing to Act 1 and it was up to the players to reveal how ridiculously overtuned the endgame was. For some reason, I still to this day remember a Druid Bear cooldown that got its effectiveness cut in half only a few days after Cataclysm was released.
You shouldn't be surprised that the same company that charges $30 for 4 days of "early access" will also skimp on testing. It might not cost that much to add simulations or models to your continuous integration pipeline, and you probably should from a longterm point of view, but Blizzard has shown if they can tap players as a resource instead, they'll choose the latter.
You shouldn't be surprised that the same company that charges $30 for 4 days of "early access" will also skimp on testing. It might not cost that much to add simulations or models to your continuous integration pipeline, and you probably should from a longterm point of view, but Blizzard has shown if they can tap players as a resource instead, they'll choose the latter.
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jayrebb
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I'd guess that was the reason to sit on the data also. It wasn't a problem to the "vision" until they saw people were fully aware of the facts from D4 closed beta content creators dropping videos on it. That's why Blizzard mentioned the vision in the patch.
Barb was fine being broken endgame....long as a good number of people chose not to roll Barbarian. That didn't happen. They saw the numbers of new characters and decided they need to deploy emergency brakes. That'd also explain why they'd risk goodwill to do it. It was a red alert threat to the diversity of classes in the endgame.
popsicledeath
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Patch after the hype from early access got a bunch of people to impulse purchase in the momentum of the early frenzy, but before regular launch or when most average players would have had the time to level up enough be affected. Not sure I see the problem. That's just good marketing. $$$
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