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Aazrael

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Most of the people I know that were "normies" that bought the game did so out of sheer hype. I dont know anyone that plays it anymore, including them. I still keep up with the news on it because D4 does have some kind of appeal. But I dont know if I'll ever reinstall it.
Yea same here. The few friends I have that play arpgs quit after the pre-season. I did play maybe 3 "Seasons" but it is quite boring.

On the other hand I find PoE too complex for me. I need some autism to understand it at all.
 
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Yea same here. The few friends I have that play arpgs quit after the pre-season. I did play maybe 3 "Seasons" but it is quite boring.

On the other hand I find PoE too complex for me. I need some autism to understand it at all.
It is in a very bad state right now.

They did have it pointed in the right direction, but they undid all of that a season ago. They made leveling and gear progress a huge slog. Leveling is slower, good gear drops rarely. Pretty much forget trying to min/max gear because 2+GA gear is fucking rare. Boss runs are PITA, and only good loot drop % is from one boss whose mats are a complete pain to get. They changed old bosses to have invincible phases. Didn't make them harder, just hugely annoying to fight...and with shit rewards. New "hardest" boss has no invincible phase and dies in half a second.

I've played enough off and on over the last few seasons. Normally would have a full set of mythics and all gear at least 2GA. 0 mythics and one 2GA item. Nothing else.

They changed pit levels and xp, so forget getting your glyphs to 100 unless you have a meta build. Play on Eternal? There are no meta builds so fuck you.

For some reason, they decided only 10% of the players should reach T4, so they fucked everything before that to get that goal. Progress of all types now a boring grind.

They got rid of season pass reward progression for this retarded reliquary system with 4 sections. You have to pay more to get a lot less now.

Game is basically dead, and seasons are now ultra bland cookie cutters, and each is now just them renaming things that were in the previous season. All the activities and powers are identical, but the names of them change. Yay! It is going to be like this from now on.

No one plays Eternal. I showed up to kill a world boss. 0 other players. I'm pretty sure seasonal has a fraction of players it used to.

Second expansion is one year away, and I am pretty sure the game will be long dead at that point. No one will care when it does release.
 
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It is in a very bad state right now.

They did have it pointed in the right direction, but they undid all of that a season ago. They made leveling and gear progress a huge slog. Leveling is slower, good gear drops rarely. Pretty much forget trying to min/max gear because 2+GA gear is fucking rare. Boss runs are PITA, and only good loot drop % is from one boss whose mats are a complete pain to get. They changed old bosses to have invincible phases. Didn't make them harder, just hugely annoying to fight...and with shit rewards. New "hardest" boss has no invincible phase and dies in half a second.

I've played enough off and on over the last few seasons. Normally would have a full set of mythics and all gear at least 2GA. 0 mythics and one 2GA item. Nothing else.

They changed pit levels and xp, so forget getting your glyphs to 100 unless you have a meta build. Play on Eternal? There are no meta builds so fuck you.

For some reason, they decided only 10% of the players should reach T4, so they fucked everything before that to get that goal. Progress of all types now a boring grind.

They got rid of season pass reward progression for this retarded reliquary system with 4 sections. You have to pay more to get a lot less now.

Game is basically dead, and seasons are now ultra bland cookie cutters, and each is now just them renaming things that were in the previous season. All the activities and powers are identical, but the names of them change. Yay! It is going to be like this from now on.

No one plays Eternal. I showed up to kill a world boss. 0 other players. I'm pretty sure seasonal has a fraction of players it used to.

Second expansion is one year away, and I am pretty sure the game will be long dead at that point. No one will care when it does release.

That bad? Damn, I was just about to load this up. Have they introduced a new class?
 

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they had a content creator meeting last week where they showed off what is coming up, hid it all behind an nda other than letting creators say they attended or watch it later. so some big changes appear to be coming sooner than the next xpac
 

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they had a content creator meeting last week where they showed off what is coming up, hid it all behind an nda other than letting creators say they attended or watch it later. so some big changes appear to be coming sooner than the next xpac
Yeah. They already had big changes. They threw away all the good ones.
 

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Copium intensified.

Surely the next fix will make it better.

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rhinohelix

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I don't know, I had my ARPG buddies come back to this, so I redownloaded and gave it a try again, playing an Immolate/Hydra Sorc and its fun. Moment to moment gameplay is still the best amongst all the ARPG's out there, I like the itemization, skill tree is OK. Game narrative, however is a pile of Satanic Gen-Z Woke horseshit but if you ignore the main quests and the store its barely passable.

It's fun for a few weeks if you stick to S builds and know the game. Blizzard is a Bioware/Bethesda shell of its former self and I can't wait for them to die and somehow people get back to making normal games with normal good guy heroes killing bad guy villains, and not working out their social justice ideological neuroses in my video games.
 
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Yea same here. The few friends I have that play arpgs quit after the pre-season. I did play maybe 3 "Seasons" but it is quite boring.

On the other hand I find PoE too complex for me. I need some autism to understand it at all.

I just want a modern D2
 
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The controls are the most responsive, the movement feels fluid, the combat feels the best, the onscreen feedback is the most informational, etc.

I've never played D4 but it sounds reasonable this might be true. Though I think it has a lot less to do with know-how and prowess in those areas at Blizzard these days and a lot more to do with dumbing the game all the way the fuck down to make that the priority.
 

rhinohelix

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I've never played D4 but it sounds reasonable this might be true. Though I think it has a lot less to do with know-how and prowess in those areas at Blizzard these days and a lot more to do with dumbing the game all the way the fuck down to make that the priority.
I think Blizzard has great/the best network engineers, and has for two decades. Almost everything else about the game sucks from a code perspective; When it launched, part of the reason we discovered that you couldn't have more storage is that everyone was loading everything that everyone had whenever you could see anyone in town. Many of the system are super lowest common denominator but not everything needs to be POE star map levels of complexity.

I love Last Epoch as a game but I have come to really dislike their leveling/story/world, and prefer the D4 world for leveling. POE2 is fun but so many of their systems are cumbersome and hate hate hate their ersatz marketplace bs.
 
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Beat Diablo 2 for the first time tonight. Playing around w/ Project Diablo 2 w/ a couple friends who have been playing it for a bit. We'll see if I stick with it and catch up or ...

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k^M

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This was free on ps+ recently. I still didn’t download.
I downloaded it, made it to maybe level 20 as a druid, got bored and uninstalled. More upset that the size of the game apparently ate up a dumb amount of monthly bandwidth caps