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Deathwing

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So don't play. Go to your comfort zone of PoE, where you have 5k post in the thread and obviously love the game and play it fanatically. Instead of just slinking into here looking to nitpick posts or something I dunno, definitely not talking about the game.

I'll never understand that aspect of gamers. It's as if they take it as a personal insult people enjoy something they dont, or they dont enjoy the things they do. It's so weird. Granted now that I think about it, not really just a gamer thing, humanity in general on any number of topics. Guess that animal pack mentality never really faded from evolution.
Do I really have that many posts in that thread?

To the contrary, I'm looking to discuss the game. Yes, my initial post was snarky, sorry. Release and previous expansions, consensus was "still not good". Seems something has changed. But, if it's still people judging on X hours of not being bored, then maybe not much has changed. That's why I was focusing on that aspect.

PoE1 has gotten so many desperately needed features recently. Partly because of Chris retiring, partly because of competition. But, they also sat on their asses for almost a year and did nothing. It's myopic to ignore the competition, even if you don't have much interest in actually playing.
 

Cinge

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Consensus is hard to judge, even more so in the world today where everything is very divided. A very us or them mentality. Sometimes its worth the risk to buy something, even if the general consensus is against it, even on a board supposedly of gamers.

Like this game for example, you say the consensus was "still not good", yet I have had fun with it the entire time. Has every season been good, no, but generally its been fun in spurts. Play 2-4 weeks and then stop. It's quite like a lot of games. Games are very person specific. Listening to general advice is nominally good when those critiques are about technical problems, but even that can be weird(look at general CP2077 launch reviews, but I had a blast with zero issues). But general advice when its about gameplay or story can be very hit or miss, because to each person its wildly different. Not to mention the laundry list of things(some having merit) people will dislike about the company and devs that have zero to do with the game itself.

Imo each person needs to look at the game, watch videos of it and decide for themselves if its worth the cost to try. How upset would you be if you spend $60 bucks for a waste of time. Sadly I can even ask trusted friends about a game, they will say they hate it, but then I end up trying it and I have fun.
 
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Zindan

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Do I really have that many posts in that thread?

To the contrary, I'm looking to discuss the game. Yes, my initial post was snarky, sorry. Release and previous expansions, consensus was "still not good". Seems something has changed. But, if it's still people judging on X hours of not being bored, then maybe not much has changed. That's why I was focusing on that aspect.

PoE1 has gotten so many desperately needed features recently. Partly because of Chris retiring, partly because of competition. But, they also sat on their asses for almost a year and did nothing. It's myopic to ignore the competition, even if you don't have much interest in actually playing.
I stopped playing D4 a few weeks after launch, I was just done with it and what it offered. Didn't dislike it, but didn't feel a desire to keep playing. Bought the VoH/LoH combo a week before LoH launch to get through the VoH campaign. A lot had changed, better systems and "more" to do, not that I did everything in the little window before LoH launch.

I feel the War Plan system has added a ton of value/fun into D4. I one of those people who likes having a "goal", even if its a repeatable quest, get a bit more for doing something you'd be doing anyway. The War Plans do that by bringing together all the content you'd normally be doing into a set of 5 activities that reward you for doing them, and gives you points to alter how each of those activities play out.

So now after investing points into various activities, I can have Duriel or Andariel spawn instead of Blood Maiden, or get ambushed by Hellwyrms that spawn mini-Duriels while I'm in a Helltide. I can get ambushed while fighting a Nightmare dungeon boss by the Beast in Ice, Belial or the Amalgam of Hate.. or all three. These and others spice up what we'd normally do (and of course its still new), so it adds to the fun factor by quite a bit (for me at least).