Disaster Preparedness and Survival Training

Lol snipers. Retards with guns shoot up anything and everything, especially stuff like transmission lines out in the middle of nowhere.

tad10_sl said:

Whatever. The attack on infrastructure was a dry run and the fact it wasn't revealed until now raises the questions of how many other such dry runs have occured that we don't know about. Take the Jan 4, Minneapolis apartment complex explosion. It was likely a bomb factory that exploded (any other reason we'd have known about and the claim of "gas" was repudiated day one by the local gas company) and all information was promptly buried.

The point of posting it in this thread wasn't to argue for drones circling overhead but to remind people that the world isn't as safe as "some" seem to think and it is worthwhile being prepared because you really don't know what's going to come, or even (as this news report indicated) what's already happened.

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You have proof this was a dry run? You have proof there was a bomb factory?

I agree, this is not the thread to argue theories. It also isn't the thread to post theories about what you think someone should prep for. It is a thread for how to prep, period. Now, the reason someone is prepping is relevant to how and what they prep, of course, but linking articles that have nothing but speculation in them isn't helping that. You could have just as easily linked your Fukushima articles and said we need to worry about radiation more than "some" of us do. Or fucking chemtrails. Or HAARP. Regardless of validity, none of that makes any difference to the topic at hand. If piggyvomit wants to prep for radiation exposure or power grid collapse, then fine, he can say that and we'll give our advice on how he should go about doing that. And others, same thing. But this isn't the thread for trying to convince us that any of that is actually going to happen. You have a thread all your own for that, so leave this one to the topic at hand.

Iannis_sl said:

It might take longer than you'd think. There's a small transformer up the street. I'm pretty sure it would take more than 2-3 bullets to disable it.

Not saying anything more than I'm saying which is only it may very credibly take about a minute of shooting relatively small bullets at a relatively large pile of metal to disable it.

Sounds like a case for Mythbusters.

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Shooting at the coils themselves would be hit and miss. At best you might hit the coil windings themselves, but that isn't guaranteed to take one out. At worst, you hit something like the iron core laminations and you do little or nothing.

Your residential type pole mounted transformers do get shot frequently, and normally they aren't damaged by bullets. They're damaged when the oil they're immersed in drains out, the coil overheats because the oil isn't there to radiate away heat any longer, and if you're lucky you get to see the last of the oil flash over and possibly explode.

Chris_sl said:

How about living somewhere with the least number of possible natural disasters possible instead of building bunkers full of tinned food?

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So California then. Check!

I remember back in like 2003-4 when we had that extended black out of the entire north east. It only lasted a few days, but still, people were already going bonkers. Stores were all sold out of everything, no one could pump gas, water was shut down, we had no means to even boil water because all our shit is electric. We had an infant at the time that required milk and formula and I had to drive well over 2 hours to get water and milk. We were one of the lucky ones because we had a small generator to back-feed 1/2 our house it made things more tolerable and this was in the summer too so no cold weather to contend with.

And this was only a few days of no power. Now imagine something like this happening for an extended period of time, maybe in the winter, for more than just the north west. Shit would get out of hand real quick. Imagine the simple fact of not being able to get to your cash. Shit I never thought of things liek that before that blackout, but I had no cash on hand, I rarely do, I use my debit card, but I could not even use ATMs, and the banks were closed.

mkopec_sl said:

And this was only a few days of no power. Now imagine something like this happening for an extended period of time, maybe in the winter, for more than just the north west. Shit would get out of hand real quick.

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This is exactly what I'm talking about. Imagine that scenario, on a major scale, no end in sight, people starving, etc. Humans are fucking savages and it's hilarious to think that you're going to "REBUILD! 'MERICA! FUCK YEAH!" from your backwater ranch in Michigan/Montana/Kentucky, or wherever. You'll be lucky to even make it out of the city, let alone survive for the years it'll take to get society back to a "livable" situation.