Yeah no shit, the whole cast poof and while poof is casting blink on on main meepo and fucking one shot someone is just ridiculous. There is literally nothing you can do about it if you're in blink dagger range.Watching N0tail play Meepo is pretty damn impressive. Wish I had those types of micro skills.
There's a ton of better Meepo players than n0tail, and yet he's rarely if ever picked. He's not a safe pick, sure if no one stops you, you can unleash his monstruous potential but it's not like you get there np. He also becomes a liability later in the game, he maxes out very quickly and once he's maxed out, there's nothing else to do with Meepo and he becomes a lot worse as time goes. If you don't stop him early though, you're probably losing between 20 and 30mins in a really harsh way. Live past 30mins and he's not gonna do a whole lot anymore.Check notail's twitch channel. Honestly I think Meepo has no place in the game. Ridiculous when played by a good player and completely fucking useless when not.
I'm not so sure that is true anymore with the scepter change. A meepo with scepter and heart is now very tanky, making him much less susceptible to burst. 1-2 nukers can no longer nuke him down quick, and getting all 5 people to focus on one meepo quickly is difficult in a team fight. Even if you do, he's not really easier to kill than many other carries. This means he loses much less efficiency in the late game.He also becomes a liability later in the game, he maxes out very quickly and once he's maxed out, there's nothing else to do with Meepo and he becomes a lot worse as time goes. If you don't stop him early though, you're probably losing between 20 and 30mins in a really harsh way. Live past 30mins and he's not gonna do a whole lot anymore.
What's the normal build on Meepo ? Mek + threads ? Throw in Scepter and Heart and you are looking at 2,3k+1,4k+4,2k+5,5k which is 13 400 gold, not counting shit like TPs. Unless you get fed you probably won't have that before 30 minutes which is little past the time he peaks in power and that also means you are playing him in no.2 position. If you are good with him, fine, but he can become dead weight much more easily than other heroes.I'm not so sure that is true anymore with the scepter change. A meepo with scepter and heart is now very tanky, making him much less susceptible to burst. 1-2 nukers can no longer nuke him down quick, and getting all 5 people to focus on one meepo quickly is difficult in a team fight. Even if you do, he's not really easier to kill than many other carries. This means he loses much less efficiency in the late game.
He is still vulnerable early, and tapers off relative to other carries once he hits 25, but it's much less severe than before.
I fully expect some asian wonderkid to bring Meepo to ban status against certain teams. He does require an absurd amount of practice to master though, so he will likely remain in obscurity for the majority of the scene.
Farming has never been my thing. I know it's necassary at times but I prefer to just burn down enemies.Nostrovia: Basically heroes can be split into several categories, usually by how much money they need before they start being effective. I'd recommend picking and playing a few heroes from each category and then decide, you don't really have to play them all, just know their skillset. Carries are good if you feel like you are winning the game by yourself, but for example I found out I prefer killing people compared to perfecting your farm for 20 minutes (or bitching at your lanemate for stealing lasthits...)
Keep in mind that Meepo has the fastest theoretical farming speed of any hero from a very early stage. In N0tail's last 4 games played with Meepo he averages 660GPM. That's in pubs, so you can count on some added feeding cash, but also less ideal farming conditions. The full heart is also unnecessary - the reaver is the part that really matters (since pure +HP isn't shared), and converting to heart is just endgame fluff. That reduces the cost to 11000, which is highly achievable by 20-25 minutes.What's the normal build on Meepo ? Mek + threads ? Throw in Scepter and Heart and you are looking at 2,3k+1,4k+4,2k+5,5k which is 13 400 gold, not counting shit like TPs. Unless you get fed you probably won't have that before 30 minutes which is little past the time he peaks in power and that also means you are playing him in no.2 position. If you are good with him, fine, but he can become dead weight much more easily than other heroes.
I have a 5 day weekend coming up so I'll be able to get some play time in. I'll play around with some heroes and see which ones I like, and Purgegamers are the videos I found on Youtube and have been watching their matches. Though it seems like the guy doing the commentary focuses more on talking and clicking the mouse a millions times than actually doing anything.Nostrovia, You can do whatever you like, and your learning curve will be be steep either way. If I was to recommend a path, it would be this:
1. Play 10-30 games with one hero. I usually recommend Lich. He is easy to play, has a large impact early game, can get kills all game, and isn't dependent on farm. Watch/read a few Lich guides to get a feel for how to play him (Purge's video guides are pretty decent). When you get bored or feel you have a good understanding of all the major concepts, move on to the next step.
2. Start playing as many different heroes as possible. Once you have the game basics down, this will teach you the most in the shortest amount of time. Knowing which heroes can and can't do what at various stages of the game is critical to become good at Dota. I recommend Single Draft mode for this. The community is slightly more friendly than All Pick, and you avoid the people who only play one hero to perfection. Those can be annoying while you're learning new heroes, especially in low level games.
2b. When you find a hero that you really like playing, make a note. Once in a while, watch some guides and play that hero again to perfect your play with him. Having a few signature heroes is always good if you are going to be playing with friends.
http://www.dota2alttab.com/is a good site for quickly checking how to skill/build/play a hero you haven't played before.
http://www.purgegamers.com/welcome-to-dota-you-suckis probably the best comprehensive newbie guide out there.
That's how you play Dota. At least for the first 5-10 minutes of the game. The laning phase is mostly about:clicking the mouse a millions times than actually doing anything.
Can't you just shut auto attack off? Seems like it would save on having to spam click.That's how you play Dota. At least for the first 5-10 minutes of the game. The laning phase is mostly about:
- getting last hits on creeps (and denies on your own)
- harassing opponent
- not getting harassed
- maintaining the creep line (where creeps meet) at the optimal spot
The primary way you do this is by positioning correctly and generally only attacking for the last hit on each creep. Clicking the mouse a million times keeps your hero moving, meaning you won't attack involuntarily, and you'll be harder to predict and harass.
Purge is actually a pretty decent player. As a newbie, you can safely emulate his playing style.
You can. It's personal preference, I like it on for some niche functionality, but it's not a big deal. Even with auto attack off you will want to move around constantly though, to make yourself less predictable and harder to kill.Can't you just shut auto attack off? Seems like it would save on having to spam click.
So keep moving to make your enemies nervous, and get last hit for gold/xp. While maintaining creeps to push the lane?You can. It's personal preference, I like it on for some niche functionality, but it's not a big deal. Even with auto attack off you will want to move around constantly though, to make yourself less predictable and harder to kill.
Added a bit to my above post as well.