DOTA 2

Thanks. I read the You Suck page and I'll join the channel.

I'll probably still suck. ha...but willing to give it a go.

Gecko_sl said:

Thanks. I read the You Suck page and I'll join the channel.

I'll probably still suck. ha...but willing to give it a go.

Click to expand...

You will still suck for a long time but it's a fun journey. You'll have good games and bad ones, some heros will click with you right away and some won't. Yesterday I played a Luna game where I was like 23-2 farmed as shit and destroyed everyone. One of the next games my best option in single draft was EMber spirit and I had no idea how to play that hero or what to do with him and fed like hell. That's just the nature of the beast.

Just focus on learning heros and items. After you have a good knowledge of that you can start analyzing your play a bit more and improve faster. After every game I try to think of how I could have played better or itemized my character better against what I was up against. Focus on stuff you can control(yourself) and not what you can't (crazy teammates). But that's not to say you can't politely ask someone to stop auto attacking creeps and pushing the lane and/ or fucking up last hits.

That's my 2 cents as a newer player myself. I have about 110 I ranked games played and did a A-Z against the computer before that that I don't regret doing at all.

I have not even played a game against anyone but Bots so far but I am falling in love with Lifestealer. Question is with this character I basically jungle the whole game until I get powerful then push towers. Would that be acceptable in a game against players or would they just wonder what the fuck I was doing the whole game.

dolaan_sl said:

I have not even played a game against anyone but Bots so far but I am falling in love with Lifestealer. Question is with this character I basically jungle the whole game until I get powerful then push towers. Would that be acceptable in a game against players or would they just wonder what the fuck I was doing the whole game.

Click to expand...

Just depends on if your team needs you or not, if your team is rolling then it would be. If your team is in close fights you may make a difference. Sometimes you may have to lane depending on team makeup.

Luckily Lifestealer is at the top of the food chain in terms of heroes so you made a good choice, though other people may pick him.

I would say Lifestealer is actually one of the best carries in EARLY - MID teamfights. No other hero gets a built in BKB with insane attack speed, and a scaling dmg passive that early on. You should be joining those early teamfights and winning them imo. If I see a 0-0-0 LS in the jungle while we're losing the mid game, I start the rage train.

First rule of Dota is the same as the first rule of hiking: Always carry a TP.

It's much better when you can react to a teamfight by just proting to the nearest tower instead of walking in.

That is good info on Lifestealer. So I am assuming that lifestealer is often lower levels than other players who stick to the lanes? When I spend essentially the whole game in the jungle I am still a lower level then everyone but I get all the gear I could possibly need to be effective. This is against only bot though. So if I am spending time in team fights and jungling (which would be more fun anyway btw) I will end up lower levels and potentially without the money I need for gear. or does the money made in team fights make up for that? I rarely get kills as lifestealer, I have to get better with snare or what every its called as even with the boots that increase speed I still cannot catch people to get the final blow.

Yea, it usually (give or take cs/denies) goes in terms of experience: Mid -> Offlane (solo) -> Duos -> Jungle -> Trilanes.

You shouldn't really be jungling for experience at around 8-9, you should be helping setting up ganks or winning the lane adjacent to yours jungle

I'd argue that Lifestealer is better in the lane from the get-go anyhow... Don't even bother jungling.

Interesting cause when I am in mid lane solo I always get paired with some range hero who just sits there plinking me apart while I have to be up close and person to get kills. I will try it again tonight.

What's the deal with Draskyl. He seems like the Destiny(SC2) of dota2 and l like watching his stream but I can't help but think that he always groups with lower level players so he can pub stomp the shit out of ppl in lower level MMR games.

Zaphid_sl said:

First rule of Dota is the same as the first rule of hiking: Always carry a TP.

It's much better when you can react to a teamfight by just proting to the nearest tower instead of walking in.

Click to expand...

Any other tips? I generally keep a healing salve and citrus, and try to farm safely.

Also, any tips on heros? I've been randoming them to learn, but fucksake are there are a ton.

Cyni_sl said:

I'd argue that Lifestealer is better in the lane from the get-go anyhow... Don't even bother jungling.

Click to expand...

Most of the melee junglers who have to tank creeps are like this, they need a couple levels and/or items to be effective. The particular creep types can make a big difference though.

Gecko_sl said:

Any other tips? I generally keep a healing salve and citrus, and try to farm safely.

Also, any tips on heros? I've been randoming them to learn, but fucksake are there are a ton.

Click to expand...

I wouldn't random, just look for a hero that seems to be interesting and play him a few times. Consumables are good at the start, but they are generally wasted money past the laning phase, if you really need them, learn how to use the bottle. Look for a role that seems interesting and learn a few heroes who can fill that role and see what applies to specific heroes and what doesn't. Learn to pull jungle or stack creeps, learn ward spots.

Hotkey courrier ( I use "5") and control it solely through hotkeys for movement, unless shit is hitting the fan. You should also always put the item you are building into the quickbuy slot and bind a key to do some last minute shopping when you are about to die, but that doesn't take priority over you actually controlling your hero.

Always watch the minimap. Always. Raging that somebody didn't report missing hero doesn't make you better, watching minimap does.

Zaphid_sl said:

I wouldn't random, just look for a hero that seems to be interesting and play him a few times. Consumables are good at the start, but they are generally wasted money past the laning phase, if you really need them, learn how to use the bottle. Look for a role that seems interesting and learn a few heroes who can fill that role and see what applies to specific heroes and what doesn't. Learn to pull jungle or stack creeps, learn ward spots.

Hotkey courrier ( I use "5") and control it solely through hotkeys for movement, unless shit is hitting the fan. You should also always put the item you are building into the quickbuy slot and bind a key to do some last minute shopping when you are about to die, but that doesn't take priority over you actually controlling your hero.

Always watch the minimap. Always. Raging that somebody didn't report missing hero doesn't make you better, watching minimap does.

Click to expand...

Good jungler = you stay near the lane, pay constant attention to the minimap and are ready to pop out to help losing lane or gank mid starting at 2 minutes.

Bad jungler = 99.9% of people in dota who sit in jungle and do nothing. If your team wins you had nothing to do with it cause they did it despite of you and were inconsequential.