Edge of Tomorrow (2014)

Well, apparantly the entire army was frozen or DOA after the Omega died. That's at least what the news report said at the end. It didn't make sense because the Omega died a day or two after he was first arrested. Yet Hollywood magic made it so it was dead a day or two earlier once he "woke up" at the end. It was strange. Still a very enjoyable movie, though.

When Cage killed Omega, the tazer thing never happened so it simply reverted back to his last waking moment which was on the Helicopter and not as a private. The omega was the controller of the ability and apparently lacked the ability to bring itself back, or brain is dead. It was able to do it for alphas/others as long as it was alive. That makes sense to me. Cage soaked up the blood/brain bits at the end which made Cage the new Omega.

Edge of Tomorrow 2, Cage dates Cher and go on a if I could turn back time tour.

The whole hunt the omega down made things a bit too neat and self contained, but not surprising given it's a movie that doesn't really lend itself to telling a long story.

The happy hollywood ending was pretty atrocious though. Could have done without that, and I would have rather seen that after the omega dies, and Cage dies too, the next day continues with the invasion but on landing that find no opposition and then discover the aliens have been wiped out. Possibly with a footnote about Rita mysteriously going MIA, and Cage not even being mentioned. Pretty ignoble way for it to end and treat the people who saved the world, but seems like it would fit the storyline a lot better on a bunch of levels.

Pretty sure the idea was that the specific point in time when he was flying in was when the omega 'set up'. When they killed it, they killed it in all time frames. So they say there was a disturbance in paris, that was the omega exploding, imploding, whatever, at it's point of initiation. After that they say the mimics are unable to fight back (for reasons unknown to the UDF) and the invasion is going to be a cake walk. Pretty sure it's a "Happy-everyone-winds-cool-smiles!!!" ending. Not much deeper than that.

Just saw this tonight. Why did they go with time traveling machines instead of tachyons? I mean the tachyon theory from the book is very real world plausible but full on time travel is straight up bullshit. Plus now they have to have it transfer by blood whereas in the book a tachyon pulse became intertwined with our nervous system. Sure it's hard enough to accept that but that is still FAR easier to accept then a BLOOD connection.

Whiich sounds plausibe.

A tachyon pulse sent by an advanced alien machine at the time of death which becomes misdirected by direct contact during death with a human central nervous system thereby allowing said human to experience the pulse as visions of the future. The nature of the pulse causing the human to experience them as if they are literally living each day over and over.

OR

A blood to nano-tech blood (btw it should have been dust) connection that allows a human to travel back in time when they die.

I know both aren't easy to accept but the difference between time travel and tachyon pulse is like pre crisis superman vs modern superman. I guess us Americans are just to fucking stupid for the real stuff.

Movie is based off of a book though which is where I am coming from. Plus tachyons aren't pusedoscience. The best science fiction out there often places it's roots within a feasible scientific concept. It is when we stretch and stretch and sttrrreeccch those roots that suspension of disbelief starts to fail. The fewer the ideas you have to accept to accept the premise the easier to buy into a story.

For the tachyon premise to to work you would at most need

1. An advanced alien species (no problem accepting that one)
2. Advanced nano technology capable of teraforming (again not a huge stretch given what are still learning in the field)
3. A power source capable of sending a directed tacyhon pulse back in time a few days
4. That the pulse in #4 can interact with the human CNS

Of those 4 only #3 and #4 requires a significant suspension of belief for the story. Do the same for a blood borne time traveling mechanism and I can't even see where the roots might touch any scientific concepts if they even have any. How do they power the ability to go back in time? The power required to theoretically travel in time is infinitely larger then the power required to generate a tachyon pulse and if you had the power to go back into time well h-o-l-y fuck have you just unlocked a can of worms. But ignoring all the possible fails left open with such an OP ability how they hell does it link with human blood? What concept has anyone heard of that isn't written in the Holy Book can explain why nano -> human blood would suddenly and instantly transfer time control power to a human? And even assuming that were possible how would such a power be maintained after the first event? Did his blood go back in time too? Did it somehow pump through and spread itself through his entire body at the instant of his death so the ability would take all of his person back in time? Where is his original self? how does he generate the power every time he dies?


I love reading science fiction but good science fictionalwaysplaces it's roots behind reality based concepts. Sure some of those get turned over as we learn more and advance science forward but sometimes we get true masterpeices because you don't have to think up weird any crazy shit to have a good story. The real world is weird enough.