EQ: Elder Dragons, Heart of Heroes. Made to stay, made for heroes!

McFly said:

Been trying to log in since 8:01 EST, anyone else getting this? The network status page is just a link to a forum post about the latest patch notes.

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It isn’t just you, no word on their boards either. Good thing I didn’t turn on my stream early for the grand opening!

McFly said:

I live on the East Coast of the US and it's 8:35 AM presently.

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I had to look it up, it is 8:35 EDT. Eastern Daylight Time. Technically, it is 7:35 EST. I’m guessing some translation/Google fu problem.

Server is up.

Well - I'm gonna at least give it a try. Anyone setting up a guild for some chat?

Edit: damn I really should have patched this... any other time.

Nemesis said:

so, absolutely no sleight intended, but how is it that the official Elder Dragons forums and these here have been so quiet about this project?
was this all done without any publicity until this post?

I'm really interested, signed up, DL'd and ready to log into EQ for the first time in like 15 years... just surprised that there isn't more noise being made!

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There's been basically no advertising done, and it's not on the EQEmulator server list, so the fact that it hasn't been advertised heavily is unsurprising. From what I could gather, the server is made for thalix and his European guild & their friends, similar to what P2002 was for Arm & Hammered, except there's no exodus from another server to make it.

I had asked in EQEmu's coders chat about this with him last night and he accused me of personally attacking him and subsequently left the discord, when in fact there was no personal attacks. I just asked him bluntly why he didn't list it on the EQEmulator loginserver in addition to his own, and got excuses as replies that were technically and factually incorrect.

Then, someone else (not me, actually, for a change) made a brand new emu account to parrot my points on the forums, and he instantly accused me of being that anonymous account. I can't blame him, given that if it was anyone else, it'd probably be the case, but given his attitude to me on the discord, it wouldn't surprise me if he created the anonymous account to post on my behalf so he could berate me further.

The anonymous, 1-reply account posted the following below basically parrots my conversation in Discord. I'm posting the full thing for transparency below.

I have been following this project since the original post.

I was very excited to play here but unfortunately after seeing the server operator's attitude towards others and propensity for lying about their experience & skills, in combination with the server not being on the public LS means I will have to pass on this one.

The reason being I don't think this server is going to last more than a couple of months. Every time the operator runs into someone who doesn't share the same opinion as them they seem to just shut down and claim everyone is "attacking" them.

I will continue to keep tabs on this project. If proven wrong, and if the server operator's attitude improves, I may give it a shot in the future.

Thanks for reading.

-Dave

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Thalix's reply to that on the EQEmulator forums is listed below:

A new account, created today, who could that possibly be after last night's discussion? To clarify, there is a user in the EQEmu community who himself admitted to have spied on his players, more precisely he read the browser titles and published the "porn" he found there in the EQEmu Discord. This very person claimed yesterday that Elder Dragons would never be a success because we decided not to use eqemulator's login server. And now today someone creates a new account to claim exactly that again.
Strange coincidence.

By the way, the costs for the server are paid well in advance - to be prepared for worst case scenarios. Even if no one plays on it, it will be online for a long time.

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I was looking forward to actually playing on this, but given his attitude about a simple technical question that was not personal, and lack of ways to use an EQEmulator account on it, I'll have to pass on trying it out. I'm sure it's fine to play on if you use a VPN and sandbox his patcher with credentials that are generic. Assume any information you pass in there is to be compromised, and to be honest that goes for any website you don't trust fully.

For a person who prides himself on being professional, he's far from it. Unless the professional skills are the ability to use nonsensical buzzwords to anyone with a microcosm of intellect could see through, and deflect to make himself look like he's in the right.






Here's the discussion about the 'rewind packet' that thalix claims is his 'machine learning anticheat' from the context above, which is actually a standard EQ packet that is interpreted differently. (we're calling it floatlistthing, as it was a list of recent positions that the EQ client sends to the server for anticheat and rewind purposes)



Context for reference to what 'machine learning anticheat' he has:

The code itself was submitted to EQEmulator's repository, which contains no usage of ML or any algorithms:

Lastly, as I know there's gonna be some confusion or accusations about the classless3 anticheat and what I could see, yes, I did store process window titles on the PC, no, I don't currently look at them, nor do the new folks running classless3 utilize that functionality anymore as it's commented out, plus there's no need for it with the aforementioned warp detection code that operates on the server and is 100% serversided.

I'd like to point out the anticheat for classless3 is actually open source now, as I made public the source code for the dll, including the floating combat text, DPS addon, etc, and you can review its functionality here:

PS: If I am going to berate you like this, I am going to publicly do it as myself, Thalix, and it won't be a dismissive, anonymous, 1post June account.

A

Trying to decide what to play. Heart saying Ranger... but also tempted to roll SK and complete Greenmist.

edit: Iirc it's possible to faction up for greenmist on a non Iksar, but it's incredibly inconvenient? Is that correct?

Is there a discord server for this?

McFly said:

If any Bards are playing, please let me know if you're getting a glitch when you try to scribe Chords of Dissonance. I get a racial error that I can't scribe it and a weird message.

The spell scroll stays glued to my cursor. Even after camping out and even exiting out.

I guess this is the Authentic experience of original EQ
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The DB they're using likely has races set on older bard spells. It's likely P2002's old DB, and an update to the items table would fix it. Classic EQ has no race-restricted spells, but the emu supports that functionality for custom servers.

The message after is the one to be sent for the titanium client, but the ROF2 client has the eqstr_us.txt stringID changed. It needs a check for sending that only if the client is Titanium or below. That can be commented out in source.

Below query should solve it. I'd tell Thalix on his forums, but I am tiring of pressing 'new tor node' each time thalix firewalls me on his forums, despite me only viewing it and not posting any content, so I'll post it here instead.

I certainly hope the guy who is paranoid about GDPR isn't storing my IPs in his firewall somewhere with an identifier to say it's me. That would be *tragic* for his cybersecurity 'experts' who are hoping he isn't compromising their information or storing it somehow. I also hope he's deleted the account_ips table to identify users to IP addresses!

Maybe re-integrating into EQEmulator might help him a bit with these bugs. Who knows.

The login is EQ EMU login or the one we made at the Elder Draons website because neither seem to be working and need to know which one to trouble shoot.
NM have to check your messages on the website.