Sterling
El Presidente
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I'm pretty sure corpse runs and maps are baked into the code for all servers so I doubt it would be anything like that. The difference between hardcore/casual will almost 100 percent be focused on the unlocks.
Everquest - 20th Anniversary TLP
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Flobee
Vyemm Raider
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My guess would be something like slower xp + something like a 30% mob damage and health increase or something similar for hardcore. We could probably come up with some cool creative ideas... but they're likely to just do whatever takes the least amount of work. They're best bet is to do something that will fundamentally shift the normal formula for grouping/raiding. Make us work hard to survive. Anything less will probably be lame
Arbitrary
Tranny Chaser
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As a list of things that they could do that would fit the theme -
1. Remove augment merchants
2. Reinstate corpse runs
3. Disable the map
4. No /pick zones
5. No instancing
6. No focus effects
7. Remove any remaining out of era tradeskill combines
Nothing too crazy. Right now my biggest concern is that we'll end up with a Winner Take All server akin to what we saw with Ragefire and to a greater degree with Lockjaw.
1. Remove augment merchants
2. Reinstate corpse runs
3. Disable the map
4. No /pick zones
5. No instancing
6. No focus effects
7. Remove any remaining out of era tradeskill combines
Nothing too crazy. Right now my biggest concern is that we'll end up with a Winner Take All server akin to what we saw with Ragefire and to a greater degree with Lockjaw.
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SorrowsEnd
Trakanon Raider
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They did a hardcore server before. It was called Discord. Open pvp at level 6+ with permadeath and full loot rights.
I was the 2nd highest toon on that server with a 44th level druid and my pvp partner was a 45 cleric when it ended.
They ended the contest 2 months early because <Darkwind> killed off all the competition to the point where there was only 20ish people on at a time.
It's funny seeing all the folks here clamoring for a hardcore server. You really don't want it.
I was the 2nd highest toon on that server with a 44th level druid and my pvp partner was a 45 cleric when it ended.
They ended the contest 2 months early because <Darkwind> killed off all the competition to the point where there was only 20ish people on at a time.
It's funny seeing all the folks here clamoring for a hardcore server. You really don't want it.
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Arbitrary
Tranny Chaser
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No one is asking for permadeath. Discord was a gimmick short duration server and not indicative of anything.
The party line Daybreak has always maintained is it causes a problem for them to have "different zone geometries on different servers", they claim that all the servers have to have the same zone files or it messes things up on live. I'm skeptical there's no way they could segregate it, but I buy that doing so might involve work they aren't willing to invest into the EQ1 product.
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Korrupt
Blackwing Lair Raider
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Thats an awesome list, even leaving the leveling around Phinnys rates would be fine if they took this list here. Classic EQ was the same exact thing that happened on Ragefire. It was a race to monopolize content and get the most raid loot into your guild. You either learned to improve and race to mobs or you didnt get loot.
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Korrupt
Blackwing Lair Raider
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Homie we all hang out still everyday, youre welcome to join us in Discord. We play a shit ton of games together, pretty much any ARPG or MMO now matter how shitty that comes out and youre welcome to come marinate. Its basically Dannin, Drillisen, Siirx, Mugatu, Thraka, Elaida, Webin and everyones friends.
Elderan
Blackwing Lair Raider
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You got to remember the resources they are dealing with. Basically anything that requires any real dev time is not going to happen. Think of changes they can do with just config flags currently.
My guess
Casual - FV Ruleset, NON Truebox
Hardcore - Agnarr Exp, Truebox
My guess
Casual - FV Ruleset, NON Truebox
Hardcore - Agnarr Exp, Truebox
OH shit, Thraka finally got his laptop? I kid.
I think the hardcore should be FV rules on a combine/sleeper style server. See how fast someone can open up live.
kaid
Blackwing Lair Raider
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Hehe yup it gets very highlander eventually one big group is the last group standing and nobody else can do anything and then that group eats itself.
This is one reason for the crow fall design of finite "shard" lifespans so you can intentionally flip the tables after a certain time so there is a way to keep refreshing this.
Vaclav
Bronze Baronet of the Realm
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I'd like to see a Quarm type server for the hardcore option myself - just TLPed so it has multiple checkpoints.
I don't see two full "play this as your main server" setups being a sensible idea at this point. But temporary craziness like Quarm, absolutely.
I don't see two full "play this as your main server" setups being a sensible idea at this point. But temporary craziness like Quarm, absolutely.