Everquest - Agnarr Server: Sunset Mode
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kegkilla
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would any lurkers who have received free GEBS from Atabishi, Robin Hood of Agnarr, care to corroborate this audacious tale?
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TJT
Mr. Poopybutthole
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Shouldn't too hard to find. The price parsing site is down but just look for GEBS and Atabishi or one of his boxes in there. Not sure people use redguide to sell fruit boot.
Louis
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Seriously, had a dj ring disappear from my inventory last week and petitioned about it. I have very little hope that they would reimburse it, but haven't even managed to get a denial yet.
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yeah good luck. my father had 7 krono disappear, sometimes the server will lag, specially during maintenance, and if you try to pick one up it wont work so you end up trying again and again, then you zone or relog and poof gone. told my dad for a month that he used them and wouldnt give them back, after enough bitching they did give it back.
its really about the gm you get though, ive been told by some that if you accidentally sell items they wont give it back but some have gotten it done so good luck on who you get. (yeah you didnt sell it i know)
its really about the gm you get though, ive been told by some that if you accidentally sell items they wont give it back but some have gotten it done so good luck on who you get. (yeah you didnt sell it i know)
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@Atabishi there is a large gap between exploiting or "hacking" and using tools to passively help.
To give you a parallel you might understand just look at the kronos concept.
One player can buy krono, direct from DBG, and use that to pay for all of their gear and a power level. They would be better geared than someone else that had put in 48+ hours of work. All with just the input of a credit card number.
The usage of a VM instead of a physical box isn't hacking or exploiting. It's a refusal to buy a separate PC and all that entails when any modern computer can run 72 instances of EQ (might be an exaggeration) due to its low footprint.
ShowEQ is a little more gray but you aren't doing anything but looking at the packets on your network. You aren't manipulating them in any way.
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Eidal
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Oh come on. ShowEQ is cheating just like maphacks in Starcraft or radars in any FPS. Calling it a grey area is duplicitous. Now -- should anyone really give a shit in this faux-nostalgia trip? Probably not. If you want to be king of the neckbeards then you gotta box and cheat -- if you don't want to cheat you don't get to be king. Just like, well, everything in life.
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kegkilla
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using my cell phone to look up answers on college exams wasn't cheating either.
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Is it cheating if the teacher leaves the notes for the test up on the board in front of you?
An army of Asian boxers invaded Hate last night and promptly used ShowEQ to steal all our mobs before training us. Boy oh boy am I glad Daybreak is on the ball when it comes to punishing these people.
Eidal
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Korrupt
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Using SEQ, ISBoxer, or running VMs are all forms of cheating. VM makes it so I don't have to swap my other PC's to steam stream and can just run it easier on my main box.
SEQ let us know when a raid mob popped, the mobs would stay up for sometimes 8 hours to a day so no one really gave a fuck. Its more just an excuse to rationalize not being able to DPS race for the 1 guild complaining.
SEQ let us know when a raid mob popped, the mobs would stay up for sometimes 8 hours to a day so no one really gave a fuck. Its more just an excuse to rationalize not being able to DPS race for the 1 guild complaining.
Just because. I find it gray, gray has black in it. I don't think it's not cheating and I don't think it is cheating. It's a tool that gives you an advantage but not an extreme one. Especially with instancing and /pick it just is meh. Saves you very little time and gives you very little information.
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TJT
Mr. Poopybutthole
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I don't think that designing third party tools to manipulate the client in order to see in game spawns is something that you can consider legitimate gameplay. I mean. I get that people do it and that its a thing.
Doesn't mean its not exactly what it is.
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Jysin
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Let's be real here. Imagine there was zero way to exploit reading packets to know when mobs spawn or not. If DBG somehow permanently broke SEQ. If this were the case, every neckbeard would have a ranger tracker box to remain competitive. A weaker ability to track mobs spawns / location is technically there in game already.
Korrupt
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We actually FD'd monks at most spawns for a long time before we used twitter. It's not hard to see a HUGE fucking dragon or boss in the one room they spawn in. Ninety percent of raid mobs went untouched for long periods of time, one guild likes to make a big deal out of it but like I said no one else really ever gave a fuck.
Mobs were left up from classic through Velious long enough where I scheduled clears at 11am and 5pm most expansions. I think in Kunark we had people poopsocking VS and just ignored him a bit and in Velious Rosengard got a little more serious and pressured us into raiding at 2pm EST. Besides those 2 no one even cared about open world mobs at all or they wouldn't have stayed up for 24 hour periods.