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Sythrak said:
All the sky quests have 1 rare drop usually from the bosses of the islands that's the main bottleneck. Clearing the zone should be trivial with the increase in power but some of those quest drop rates are brutal. It will depend alot on respawn timers/drop rates if they tweak them.
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Well lockouts are by difficulty level so you can do only once per lockout period per difficulty, so you can do like 5 versions of sky and even if the lockout is a week that is a lot of quest drops. I would guess you would unlock atleast one class your first week, maybe not the class you want because of RNG but something. What we don't seem to know is how open world vs instances work for lockouts.

If I had to guess we will have boss lockouts by difficulty level that disable personal loot for you if you are on lockout for that difficulty, but that is just pure speculation on my part, and we also don't know the length of raid lockouts, I think they should just be a week multiple skys per week is already a lot, making it 3 days or less would be burnout central imo.


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Sky is not hated because it's hard. Sky sucks because it's a slog with stupid mechanics (DT) and weird forced time gates and keying requirements. Also 90% of the random trash shit that drops is useless clutter.
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Well DT is confirmed removed and the loot mechanics letting you auto send to bank make all that annoying shit pretty much a non issue here. Ya you gotta go back to the bank at some point and sort through quest drops from the p99 wiki as a pain point still but oh well.

I also can't imagine they leave the bosses who were basically immune to spell damage of any kind that way here but we will see.
 
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That Plane of Sky shit is kind of weird, but it's essentially the end game zone of the release. Also you don't HAVE to do it to unlock warrior, you can either start warrior, run warrior 3rd class, or use the free token you get at level 50 (at least one).

But makes me wonder if they have fast respawn on Sky stuff in instances AND open world. Obviously they'd have to remove shit like Death Touch because you're not soloing that without extra mechanics.

Non respawning instances and respawning instances also seem weird. I'm guessing there's a guaranteed loot bonus/item level bonus on non-respawning instances. Unsure why they'd exist otherwise if you can personally instance any zone as a respawning instance. Unless this is their weird way of stating Raid instances vs Zone instances. Might need to clear that up.
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Asked for clarification in the Discord.

Every class EXCEPT Beastlord and Berserker requires their PoSky quests done to be unlocked.

Meaning once you hit 11 you're fucking locked in to that primary class no if's no and's no but's. You gotta hit 50 to get your first class unlock token and then finish the PoSky quests to unlock the others. However there will be other ways to earn the tokens. (Obviously they will be in the shop).

I've been playing FF11 and unlocking classes in EQL is going to be a bigger pain in the fucking ass than FF11.

I don't fucking remember how to do PoSky it's been over fucking 20 years. I went there Twice once for my ranger epic and once for my mage epic. that's literally it. What fucking methed up crack addict thought yeah... let's have them do fucking PoSky. This is so aimed at TLP faggots and P99 queers it's not even funny.
 
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Asked for clarification in the Discord.

Every class EXCEPT Beastlord and Berserker requires their PoSky quests done to be unlocked.

Meaning once you hit 11 you're fucking locked in to that primary class no if's no and's no but's. You gotta hit 50 to get your first class unlock token and then finish the PoSky quests to unlock the others. However there will be other ways to earn the tokens. (Obviously they will be in the shop).

I've been playing FF11 and unlocking classes in EQL is going to be a bigger pain in the fucking ass than FF11.

I don't fucking remember how to do PoSky it's been over fucking 20 years. I went there Twice once for my ranger epic and once for my mage epic. that's literally it. What fucking methed up crack addict thought yeah... let's have them do fucking PoSky. This is so aimed at TLP faggots and P99 queers it's not even funny.
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just ask yourself if you are one with the wall.
 
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Complaining it's for P99ers and TLPers is a wild complaint. You realize that's two different archetypes, yeah?
 
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Complaining it's for P99ers and TLPers is a wild complaint. You realize that's two different archetypes, yeah?
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Name two other groups of retards that have stepped foot in fucking PoSky in the past 24 years. It's a fucking accurate complaint.

They're doing this to literally fuck over casuals.

Like there are tons of things in Everquest they could have based their unlocks on.

"Collect all ivy Etched Armor pieces" unlocks Ranger
"Collect all Lambent Armor pieces" Unlocks Bard
"Collect all SolRo pet focus weapons" Unlock Mage.

They went with the least casual friendly way they could and it's not even funny. Fuck the majority of TLP players wait till Kunark because PoSky is fucking retarded and most will only go for epic weapon pieces.

Legitimately there are tons of ways they could of and should of done it, instead they went with GET 50 AND RAID GEAR TO DO PoSKY!

If it comes out and class tokens are fucking like 40 dollars a pop you'll know why.
 
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The shit you just named would take longer than clearing PoSky, mostly in travel time. If it truly is PoSky to unlock each class that's kind of dumb but that means you can probably unlock every single class in a few PoSky runs. It's less immersive than doing full Sol Ro quests but is, at this point, 100% less AIDS in your ass than trying to track down Froon and sitting in Najena and going to LFay and going to OoT and all this shit. At this point the PoSky thing almost seems lazy in comparison.

If you haven't been in PoSky in 24 years I don't think you understand how trivial it is in an emulator like this.
 
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Also after helping manage the PoSky bank items, twice, on TLPs it should be noted that 90% of Sky drops are tradable. So you're really just looking for the single no drop item for the item completion. The rest you could probably buy/trade for in EC tunnel or whatever their Classic trade system is. The irony here is this actually makes 70% of those dog shit quest items and quest pieces actually worthwhile. Stealth buff to PoSky.

A REAL QUESTION is whether or not you can Multiquest shit. We did that with Sky loot on TLP's and I don't know if anyone has asked the Devs, but I'd wager they're against it. DPG was trying to get away from it because you had poopsockers sniping shit for epics to MQ later and that's why a lot of the FTE stuff was created.
 
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I have PTSD from camping the stupid fairies for the ranger legs (I think it was legs) In lfay for like 12 hours, what an obnoxious quest.
 
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Xevy said:
The shit you just named would take longer than clearing PoSky, mostly in travel time. If it truly is PoSky to unlock each class that's kind of dumb but that means you can probably unlock every single class in a few PoSky runs. It's less immersive than doing full Sol Ro quests but is, at this point, 100% less AIDS in your ass than trying to track down Froon and sitting in Najena and going to LFay and going to OoT and all this shit. At this point the PoSky thing almost seems lazy in comparison.

If you haven't been in PoSky in 24 years I don't think you understand how trivial it is in an emulator like this.
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I would imagine with a few bits of +10 gear it will be trivial for most classes. My first alias/persona will be a brdcuck, even if I only get to have one pet. The pet AAs and slow from BST will be additive power boosts for MAG pet no matter what. So I have to clear to isle 7 PoSky no matter what just to do MAG epic. Unlocking all the other classes will be incidental.
 
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As with anything I’ll reserve final comment for when I see it, but I think the general sentiment of “take THJ and misunderstand everything that made it fun, then charge for it” is spot on here. I would have happily paid for THJ exactly as it were.

was it perfect? No. Did they slowly try to make it better? Yes. But most importantly, it was just plain fun. Trying crazy combos, not having to farm stupid fucking keys from 10 years ago, ability to solo with challenge or go with friend and make it a bit easier. See things you may have missed back in the day, everything of note instanced, short lockouts, respawn and no respawn modes…etc

I’m genuinely amazed how they can fuck something up so badly
 
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was it perfect? No. Did they slowly try to make it better? Yes. But most importantly, it was just plain fun. Trying crazy combos, not having to farm stupid fucking keys from 10 years ago, ability to solo with challenge or go with friend and make it a bit easier. See things you may have missed back in the day, everything of note instanced, short lockouts, respawn and no respawn modes…etc
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All of this still exists.

They need an open beta relatively soon so people can see what IS in, what IS NOT in, and what people are saying isn't in but ACTUALLY is.
 
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Requiring PoSky for respecs seems obnoxious, but you guys worrying about PoSky being some huge slog like it's the year 2000 seems pre-mature. Everything about EQL makes it sound like it'll be trivial for anyone who belongs to this forum to steamroll the content.
 
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Xevy said:
The shit you just named would take longer than clearing PoSky, mostly in travel time. If it truly is PoSky to unlock each class that's kind of dumb but that means you can probably unlock every single class in a few PoSky runs. It's less immersive than doing full Sol Ro quests but is, at this point, 100% less AIDS in your ass than trying to track down Froon and sitting in Najena and going to LFay and going to OoT and all this shit. At this point the PoSky thing almost seems lazy in comparison.

If you haven't been in PoSky in 24 years I don't think you understand how trivial it is in an emulator like this.
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So fucking have both? You can start Sol Ro quests in your 30s and with instances always spawning names no more hoping for a rare spawning for hours it wouldn't be that hard.

PoSky is literally waiting till you're in end game.

Imagine if in WoW they didn't let you make a Alt till you hit 60 and cleared fucking BWL.
 
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Requiring PoSky for respecs seems obnoxious, but you guys worrying about PoSky being some huge slog like it's the year 2000 seems pre-mature. Everything about EQL makes it sound like it'll be trivial for anyone who belongs to this forum to steamroll the content.
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It's not that it's a huge slog, it's that it's a terrible zone and that forcing people to play in it is stupid. Even if you fix everything about sky it's still the worst 'raid zone' in classic/kunark.
 
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Rangoth said:
As with anything I’ll reserve final comment for when I see it, but I think the general sentiment of “take THJ and misunderstand everything that made it fun, then charge for it” is spot on here. I would have happily paid for THJ exactly as it were.

was it perfect? No. Did they slowly try to make it better? Yes. But most importantly, it was just plain fun. Trying crazy combos, not having to farm stupid fucking keys from 10 years ago, ability to solo with challenge or go with friend and make it a bit easier. See things you may have missed back in the day, everything of note instanced, short lockouts, respawn and no respawn modes…etc

I’m genuinely amazed how they can fuck something up so badly
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Uhh, Legends sounds like what you just said, and not in annoying ways.
 
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The free game that generated $100,000's of dollars in illegal revenue.

I will 100% agree I think a sub is stupid and a bad play, but box cost for a game is the most reasonable thing in the world unless you want the entire onus on a cash shop which means pushing skins nonstop if they're not selling power (which they said). Exp pots being power is definitely debatable, but EQ has been doing it for 10 years now and most people just use their freebucks from their sub on them. Outside of the expac launching whales buying a group giga pot.
 
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