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Flobee

Flobee

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rolien said:
Of course they went with classic models.

They're flat fucking textures easy as hell to make new cash shop items that are just literal flat textures that wrap around a model. Hell you could probably ask an AI to make a texture for a classic Everquest model and it would be able to vomit one out quick.

Luclin Model animations were ass compared to the vanilla but the armor was so much better looking, but it was also layered armor. If you wore plate armor you had chain armor under the plate, you could see it when a corpse despawned the plate armor would despawn first. If you were wearing leather or Chain when your body despawns your character becomes naked but not textured so they're just skin colored.

Luclin models require a hell of a lot more effort to create cosmetics for.
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Modern PBR pipeline (how they'd likely create new textures) make the difference largely nil between the two styles. Both will require modeling a high-poly version of the armor to bake down to the low-poly model, the difference being Luclin models would probably be best with having that baked down to a low poly armor model vs directly onto the character itself. You're talking about an extra hour or two tops per model depending on the tools you're using, and I'm retarded with this stuff, they hopefully have an actual professional so would be more efficient.

It's a difference but not a major one honestly. Far more likely they just don't want to do it twice so chose the more popular classic models to align with the older art style. That's how I'd do it too.
 
B_Mizzle

B_Mizzle

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Flobee said:
Modern PBR pipeline (how they'd likely create new textures) make the difference largely nil between the two styles. Both will require modeling a high-poly version of the armor to bake down to the low-poly model, the difference being Luclin models would probably be best with having that baked down to a low poly armor model vs directly onto the character itself. You're talking about an extra hour or two tops per model depending on the tools you're using, and I'm retarded with this stuff, they hopefully have an actual professional so would be more efficient.

It's a difference but not a major one honestly. Far more likely they just don't want to do it twice so chose the more popular classic models to align with the older art style. That's how I'd do it too.
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A dude taking a bunch of estrogen and having to dilate every 2 hours probably isnt going to be efficient at much of anything.
 
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MazeEq

MazeEq

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Coming from someone who has poured countless hours into the beta, essentially had the best geared character in-game, and was in the first wave.

This game is going to fail. Not because of engineering bandwidth, but because the development team doesn't have a grip on reality. They want to make a "multi-class power fantasy" game yet every turn and update they bring that power down further and further.

At this point, it's just a game where you can cast more spells.

Nothing is going to work, they're not making July deadline, hell, you can't even group to level up, because they nerfed group exp into the ground.

There's no endgame outside of some 12hour spawn "raid" mobs, they're not touching trades kills, quests don't reward any upgraded items.

The last straw was nerfing AoE to 8 targets max. Now it's even slower at endgame to gather AA, and even slower to level up new combos, in a game that was touted for solo casuals.

It's par for the course when Ailia has lead design authority. Same happened with Edge, Classless, and Chain breaker. Convoluted, unfun, barely functional "cutting edge systems" that noone asked for, nor wanted, as bandaids to real problems that the team refuses to address.


I bowed out today and won't be paying a box+sub+Mt fee for this hot dog shit abortion of an EQ server that could've been built on EQEmu in a month.
 
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Needless

Needless

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The AOE change is quite bad, the positives are there but random changes like that are pretty questionable for sure
Like what even lands them at 8 mobs? the core of EQ isnt even close to that low
 
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Narac01

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Max raid size is 8 yeah? They probably capped everything at 8 regardless of who's casting it (pc or npc) because they're lazy. Why they did it? Who knows.
 
Burren

Burren

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MazeEq said:
Coming from someone who has poured countless hours into the beta, essentially had the best geared character in-game, and was in the first wave.

This game is going to fail. Not because of engineering bandwidth, but because the development team doesn't have a grip on reality. They want to make a "multi-class power fantasy" game yet every turn and update they bring that power down further and further.

At this point, it's just a game where you can cast more spells.

Nothing is going to work, they're not making July deadline, hell, you can't even group to level up, because they nerfed group exp into the ground.

There's no endgame outside of some 12hour spawn "raid" mobs, they're not touching trades kills, quests don't reward any upgraded items.

The last straw was nerfing AoE to 8 targets max. Now it's even slower at endgame to gather AA, and even slower to level up new combos, in a game that was touted for solo casuals.

It's par for the course when Ailia has lead design authority. Same happened with Edge, Classless, and Chain breaker. Convoluted, unfun, barely functional "cutting edge systems" that noone asked for, nor wanted, as bandaids to real problems that the team refuses to address.


I bowed out today and won't be paying a box+sub+Mt fee for this hot dog shit abortion of an EQ server that could've been built on EQEmu in a month.
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It’s possible they reverse decisions or add things people want. 6-8 more weeks of testing and feedback.
It’s just as possible this does go down in flames and it would be a shame. Looked fun.
 
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MazeEq

MazeEq

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Narac01 said:
Max raid size is 8 yeah? They probably capped everything at 8 regardless of who's casting it (pc or npc) because they're lazy. Why they did it? Who knows.
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Yea max raid size is 8. Doesn't make sense to nerf Aoe to 8 targets when single target TTK is upwards of 60s.

Server is not a power fantasy like THJ, it's a horrific grind, and I've done 1-60 on 15 TLPs.

Needless to say, I'll probably not end up on the live service, and go back to EQEmulator to do dumb fun shit.
 
MazeEq

MazeEq

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Burren said:
It’s possible they reverse decisions or add things people want. 6-8 more weeks of testing and feedback.
It’s just as possible this does go down in flames and it would be a shame. Looked fun.
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The track record speaks for itself. They've made no conscious effort to even fix progression halting issues like resists not working, class cohesion, and have basically turned this into meleequest, because casters are dog shit.

I have zero faith after my 30 day stint.

It's going to crash and burn when 75% of the population can't kill Nagafen.
 
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Arbitrary

Arbitrary

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Not the 18 weeks of Velious 18 weeks of Luclin 16 weeks of PoP it's May fresh TLP buy bags please but the swift 8 week unlocks after with huge bonuses plus challenges. That looks pretty good.
 
Mrniceguy

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MazeEq said:
Coming from someone who has poured countless hours into the beta, essentially had the best geared character in-game, and was in the first wave.

This game is going to fail. Not because of engineering bandwidth, but because the development team doesn't have a grip on reality. They want to make a "multi-class power fantasy" game yet every turn and update they bring that power down further and further.
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It's comical that a year from now due to the Vaniki ruleset Frostreaver will be more of a "power fantasy" than EQL.
 
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hory

hory

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Why didn’t they just copy THJ. THJ worked well in every aspect from the ports to the global buffs. Also the 0 down time was what made it fun.
 
moonarchia

moonarchia

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Well, made it to 50 yesterday on my brdcuck. 49 was the final spells for my setup, and it really does flow nicely now. Going to need to determine my BIS setup and start farming for it, but otherwise I am rocking. It only took a week to get there just casualing my way through shit and using shit gear.

Before I start pushing on brdcuck I am taking a break to level ber/mnk/dru for ports. Going to try out befallen because why the fuck not?
 
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Talenvor

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hory said:
Why didn’t they just copy THJ. THJ worked well in every aspect from the ports to the global buffs. Also the 0 down time was what made it fun.
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because they think they know better. Change for the sake of change, sadly
 
Muligan

Muligan

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hory said:
Why didn’t they just copy THJ. THJ worked well in every aspect from the ports to the global buffs. Also the 0 down time was what made it fun.
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That's what I'm saying... at least as a baseline with some minor tweaks. They could have started out with Classic with a quick move to Kunark as they worked through a few tweaks and improvements. THJ had a lot of momentum. I was really hoping to experience some expansions that I barely scratched to surface in like House of Thule. I feel like they're way overthinking this and trying to do too much. The equation is already written and pretty well solved. They seem pretty capable in terms of programming and leveraging the interafce to support their systems so they can make this work if they'll not unnecessarily complicate their product.
 
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