moonarchia
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I haven't seen more than 400 on at once yet, though, so that might change. Preorder beta is going to be the stress test.
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Mrniceguy
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TLPs easily handle 6k concurrent. THJ peaked at 4.5k and didn't have performance issues. WoW Classic servers/EMU will have 10k+ concurrent players on a single without problems. MNM runs around 5-6k no problem.
They would need 55k plus concurrent players to justify needing that many servers, Unless the game has severe performance issues.
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Kaines
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Considering all orders for EQL go through DBG website, and DBG is the one setting aside the hardware for rhe number of servers, I expect to see your cope reach 9k when release finally hits.
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Kinda expect it to do whatever a TLP typically does numbers wise. They will probably get my $20 because why not. The trifecta monetization annoys me but still cheap entertainment for a month or so.
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hats
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a big reason to wait is they are still pending enormous balance changes and yet force you into one char
but all the bros are playing day 1, so i guess ill just burn out with everyone else
would be nice to have alts. probably would play longer with alts but fuck me i guess
but all the bros are playing day 1, so i guess ill just burn out with everyone else
would be nice to have alts. probably would play longer with alts but fuck me i guess
moonarchia
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You are the alt. Literally. BRD and BER are the best primaries to focus on for the first dozen lives right now. Just start from there and the rest is just leveling as you want. If you are a min/maxxer like me, you will swap out one class at a time on repeat until they are all 50. Once we get to test solo sky the farm metas will be able to open all the other primaries. Opening races is just getting an enc to 50 and doing easy farm and repeat quests.
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Personally if they're doing a proper stress test it shouldn't be limited to pre-order that's just crazy, you want as many people on the server as you can get since essentially a stress test is trying to break the server.
I can't see EQL pre-orders being strong enough for it to be a proper stress test. Majority of people are waiting to see how this thing floats before sinking money into it.
Maybe it's just me but a lot of the hype seems manufactured and isn't real hype, so people getting excited pre-ordering and jumping into a beta just doesn't sound likely. I mean I've pre-ordered plenty of games that let you jump into the beta and always opted out of it because it just gets wiped and I want the game to be fresh to me, I'd assume I'm not the only one that does things like that.
moonarchia
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Well,
Kaines
just said they are going to have 8 servers for launch, so there is that. You can run an eqemu on a potato chip, so it might be ok. They might also have some scaling options in place by hosting it on DBG's servers. Going to be interesting to see how things go over the next few weeks. I am not going to push much in the preorder beta. Relax a bit and maybe play some other stuff. I am at 10/16 for level 50s on beta. At this point I just want to test solo sky, see how that all feels.
yerm
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Tlps for over a decade broke down well before the 5k mark. They only recently got it to where launch queues are timely and launch lag is minimal, and its still not "no" problems. Wow classic initially had some laughably fubar launches before getting it together.
A game like eql should expect to shoulder quite a bit more server strain per player than a tlp. The entire design involves heavy mob churning with prolific instance creation. Less players per server should be an expectation.
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Mrniceguy
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10 years ago sure. But not anymore, they upgraded the servers with Teek. Teek would occasionally hit over 6k after the server had been around for a month. I remember my small man changing the time we raided during Kunark. Faceless and QYC raided at the same time as us and those 2 guilds were so large it would cause the server to have queue times.
Again THJ had 4.5ish on at prime time for months and it had zero server lag problems, no rubber banding ect. THJ had a greater ability to spin up DZs and the ability to self AOE, AOEing causes lots of server stress. If EQL can't handle 5k+ it's because of incompetence.
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Kirun
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Your interpretation of "spazzing out" is hilarious. I'm simply commenting on how continuing to accept slop is contributing to dragging the industry into the state it's in today.
People keep saying "$20 for a couple weeks of fun isn't a bad deal," but that's completely missing the point. The issue isn't whether you personally got twenty dollars of entertainment out of it. The issue is that you're rewarding companies for releasing unfinished, mediocre products and then telling them, "Good enough, here's my money anyway." Publishers don't look at your purchase and think, "Wow, this customer has concerns, we'd better improve the game." They look at sales numbers. That's it. If people keep buying half-baked games because they're "only $20" or because they might be fun for a week or two, then companies learn they don't need to deliver quality. They can ship an unfinished product, collect revenue, and "promise" it'll be better later.
And then people act shocked when prices keep climbing, monetization gets more aggressive, and standards keep falling. Why wouldn't they? Consumers have demonstrated time and again that they're little piggies who can't control their impulses and love feasting on the slop they're fed.
What's especially hilarious is that you're mocking the idea that purchases influence the market while simultaneously describing exactly how markets work. Thousands of people making the same "it's only twenty bucks" decision absolutely affects industry behavior. That's exactly how we ended up with early access abuse, live-service cash grabs, day-one DLC, and games launching in states that would've been considered embarrassing a decade ago.
So no, your single $20 purchase isn't going to magically make games cost $100. But millions of consumers collectively lowering their standards and rewarding shoddy products absolutely contributes to the incentives that lead to higher prices, worse launches, and less accountability. The industry didn't get here by accident. It got here because too many people keep opening their wallets and say, "Good enough."
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Kaines
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It's good to know you aren't going to buy another game in your entire life. Since the "entire industry" is this way.
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Kirun
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That's not even remotely what I said. There's a pretty massive difference between "the industry has a growing problem with releasing unfinished or low-quality products" and "every game is bad so I'll never buy another game." In fact, my entire point is the opposite. The developers and publishers that still release polished, complete games that respect their customers are the games that deserve support.
The logic you're using is basically, "Since some degree of the problem exists everywhere, we should stop criticizing it altogether." That's absurd. If anything, that's exactly why consumers should be more selective about where they spend their money. When a company releases a good product, I buy it. When they release a mediocre product and ask customers to wait six months for it to become good, I don't. That's called having standards, not swearing off gaming forever.
The irony is that people making your argument are effectively saying consumers should lower their standards because bad practices have become commonplace. The more common those practices become, the more important it is to stop rewarding them with personal justifications like, "it's only $20!".
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Pheerie
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Ho. Ly. Shit. You are literally the dumbest, tryhardest motherfucker I've ever encountered on gaming forums.
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Flobee
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I fundamentally agree with you on the message that buying bad games is a net negative for the industry. I also think its silly to try to hold any individual responsible for an aggregate result of their actions in this sort of situation. I won't buy this at release, but its hard to argue that spending $20-40 for 20-+ hours of entertainment is a bad spend. Its just not. Now if you made the argument that we should have more valuable things to with our time than play bad games...
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Pheerie
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