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rolien

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The THJ team were previous EQ devs and decent coders in general. About the only thing they had in common with the EQL team is that they were both very passionate about EQ.
Hold up let me see if I understand this correctly.

The THJ devs were previous EQ devs and they made a version of EQ that was insanely popular so in response.

DBG sues THJ makes sure they can't ever work on EQ again, hire a dude with a record of good ideas but also a list of running those good ideas into the ground.

What the fuck thought process is that?

FUCK FUCK FUCK OUR DIVERSITY QUOTA IS DOWN GRAB THE TRANS PERSON THAT LOVES EQ AND SUCKS OUR DICK AND HAVE THEM MAKE A VERSION THAT PEOPLE WILL PLAY! WE CAN'T NOT BE INCLUSIVE!

Is this what happened?
 
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Mrniceguy

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The THJ Devs weren't previously EQ Devs. But everything else in that is true. A few people that were EQ Devs played THJ, liked it and tried to use old contacts they had to get DBG to work with THJ on a project like this months before the lawsuit was filled. Daybreak ignore that and sued them.
 
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idk THJ wasnt incredibly fun in classic or kunark... velious+ and pop were a lot more though... i think we're missing that end game custom boss they started doing, sleeper/seru/zeb all good ideas and got the hard core guys little more time... thj classic did have pohate 2.1 with inny 2.0 versus what they did here so again they had some type of harder boss
 
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Los_Necros

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Weird how I can go a dozen fights without a single Vamp Embrace proc.
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Posting facts showing the game has terrible retention and that yet again i'm right and you faggots are wrong.

"BUt I'm HazIng FunZ"

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I can't really tell if you're similar to Slyas, in that you struggle with stats and charts, or you're just being a disingenuous piece of shit who's entire persona revolves around shitting on a game you've never played or will play.

The numbers you pulled and compared to the launch peak were the concurrent player count @ 7:00 AM on a Wednesday morning. If you actually scroll down and look at the week's peak versus launch it's down about 30% with 2 servers substantially dragging them down, but hey you were close as fuck with that 66% girl math claim. And I'll even let you in on some inside information, the retention will be even lower next week too. Almost as if that's how these things work on the regular.

Pretty god damn embarrassing this shit game pulls more players at the crack ass of dawn than thj ever managed at any point. I get it though, you're all in on this hate train and have consistently been right at every turn of this saga with bangers like these, so this pretty much falls in line with your mo.

I was a Mock trial nerd in HS, which gives me some basic legal knowledge of how the whole process works.

I'm familiar with EMU legality stuff because of SenpaiSomething the lead Dev for Project Diablo 2. Talks about this stuff on stream whenever someone complains that they need a Legally obtained CD key to play PD2. It's also what Nintendo's head Copyright Lawyer says about legal vs illegal EMUs.

I was unaware that Equitable Estoppel was a thing, but i'm familiar with what promissory Estoppel is because i own like 250k in Wizard Poker cards. It's the same basic principle, you can't say one thing in public then say the opposite in court. Daybreak can't say we think EMUs are great and they make our IP more valuable in interviews. Then say they violate our copyright in court and cause harm. They can't say you're allowed to Changed the serverhost.txt file on their public forums. Then say you can't change it in court. This ruins every part of their case besides trademark infringment. Daybreaks case will get tossed because of lack of evidence.

This doesn't necessarily mean that the THJ is 100% dead. It just means that the servers are coming down until the court case is finished. I still ultimately believe THJ wins the case because of Equitable Estoppel, reading the Judges response it's clear she understand the law, but doesn't understand the facts of the case because her knowledge of EQ is very lacking. The real question is how much do the THJ devs believe they will win.

Someones is not paying attention. It's been 2 weeks. If the judge was going to grant the injunction she would've already. It's Daybreak cucks 3rd L this case.
The Judge isn't going to give a ruling. She's going to kick it to arbitration and that's gonna make all the Daycucks cry... again.

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Yeah, DBG's lawyer didn't seem to understand Equitable Estoppel, his response reinforces the case THJ was making. Saying "Look at these hidden agreements we had that contradict our public statements." Is the whole point of Equitable Estoppel.

P99 and Quarm don't have licenses they just have agreements that the won't be sued if they follow some rules. Secrets agreement was so much more cucked than Rogean, just goes to show the more you let them push you around they more they're gonna take.
Yes, all the EQEMU server side stuff is open source. Ysu is to dumb to realize his conspiracy theory where Daybreak employees magically stop being retarded and make a functional mutliclass server doesn't require them "winning the code" in a lawsuit. Daybreak won't make a THJ like server because the THJ style is really bad for whaling and RMT. When everyone can solo everything there isn't much reason to pay for a PL or 20 Krono for the current raid weapon
lol again, Secrets' RMT friends in shambles?
Nope. This is GG even if THJ is for profit. DBG currently can't go against what SOE/DBG explicitly did in the past.

Imagine Person A has a bike. Person A decides to allow others to use the wheels of said bike. Person B and C take and use those wheels. Later on Person A sells the bike to Person D without the wheels. Then person D claims to be the rightful owner of the Wheels Person B and C are using. Person D has no right to claim the wheels because they were never sold the wheels with the bike.

Nah Daybreak seems fucked they seem to think THJ is going to mount a Fair Use defense. The problem is THJ is only a copyright violation if the EULA is enforceable in the way Daybreak thinks it is. It's not. Daybreak claims modifying game files to connect to private servers is a violation of the EULA and therefor a violation of DMCAs anti tampering clause, but the problem is YOU have to modify game files connect to P99 and Project Quarm which are both Officially licensed servers. There EULA won't be enforceable how they want it to be. Daybreak basically needs to THJ to be for profit, but they have access to THJ books now and the evidence they summitted for THJ being for profit is a email from a major ECTunnel Krono reseller that states he thinks THJ is making 20k a month profit.
Keep on carrying that mad, bad, sad torch tho lil bro.
 
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I can't really tell if you're similar to Slyas, in that you struggle with stats and charts, or you're just being a disingenuous piece of shit who's entire persona revolves around shitting on a game you've never played or will play.

The numbers you pulled and compared to the launch peak were the concurrent player count @ 7:00 AM on a Wednesday morning. If you actually scroll down and look at the week's peak versus launch it's down about 30% with 2 servers substantially dragging them down, but hey you were close as fuck with that 66% girl math claim. And I'll even let you in on some inside information, the retention will be even lower next week too. Almost as if that's how these things work on the regular.

Pretty god damn embarrassing this shit game pulls more players at the crack ass of dawn than thj ever managed at any point. I get it though, you're all in on this hate train and have consistently been right at every turn of this saga with bangers like these, so this pretty much falls in line with your mo.








lol


lol again, Secrets' RMT friends in shambles?



Keep on carrying that mad, bad, sad torch tho lil bro.
The guy has text book mental illness.
 
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Janx

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LOL, didn't expect that to be the issue.
Worst part is that's been around a long time and not just for procs. See it sometimes where you get melee bumped just far enough where your weapon still swings but skills and procs dont trigger.
 
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Mrniceguy

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can't really tell if you're similar to Slyas, in that you struggle with stats and charts, or you're just being a disingenuous piece of shit who's entire persona revolves around shitting on a game you've never played or will play.

Yup i never actually talk or do anything outside of these forums bro you got me. You not mental ill for that opinion.

but hey you were close as fuck with that 66% girl math claim.

To quote myself.

"EQ Legends — Server Population -66% ATM from peak already."

6,802 is 34% of 19,959. MY statement is spot on. That's beyond pathetic.


LMAO STOP STOP STOP. I CAN'T THE PROJECTION OMFG LOL. Go outside LOL. Did you just spend half your day quote mining shit from a year ago irrelevant to the converstation or do you have some folder full of my posts?

Peak lolcow behavior.
 
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Kaines

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The numbers you pulled and compared to the launch peak were the concurrent player count @ 7:00 AM on a Wednesday morning.
And at 10:22pm EDT, it still has not pulled any new pop data. Meaning it's not running pop data during prime time US. The site is a complete fuckiing joke.
 
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yerm

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Wait, wasn't that whole mote bug thing on wednesday morning? And they took personal instances down for several hours at like 5am or whatever? So this figure is looking at eql when it hasnt had instances available for several hours and its early morning in the usa and the previous 2 weeks it had a patch with lengthy downtime an hour after that time?

What a ridiculously disingenuous statistic. Like impressively pathetic.
 
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Mrniceguy

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And at 10:22pm EDT, it still has not pulled any new pop data. Meaning it's not running pop data during prime time US. The site is a complete fuckiing joke.

This level of cope. It is he just doesn't publish it around the clock. It's going between like 6k at low hours and 10kish at peak hours. To put this in perspective Frostreaver hit that level of drop off at week 11. According to the same source and methodology.
 
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Kaines

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This level of cope. It is he just doesn't publish it around the clock. It's going between like 6k at low hours and 10kish at peak hours. To put this in perspective Frostreaver hit that level of drop off at week 11. According to the same source and methodology.
The site ITSELF says the data is 12 hours old. You braindead illiterate fucking moron.
 
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Mrniceguy

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So this figure is looking at eql when it hasnt had instances available for several hours and its early morning in the usa

No they're coping or can't do math. Data is from 2PM Eastern 11AM PT.
 
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Mrniceguy

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The site ITSELF says the data is 12 hours old. You braindead illiterate fucking moron.

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It also has weekly peaks from Week 1 and Prime time weekened week 2. For example RV week 1 Peak was just under 2800, Week 2 peak just under 1200. That's one of those worst ones, but all other servers are down pop significantly. This is again week one. These a New World levels of failure.
 
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