Zaide
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Yeah he got in a legit suit and tie and has a part where he claims we are a hate organization lmao then for some reason posts pictures of my irl face over Siegers comments.
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B_Mizzle
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So you two are blm cucks then? That is what he's saying started the arguments. I want to add more but ill wait until Saturday
Kebabman
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Lets be serious ....
This is prime american comedy!
you have a fat fuck of a trump supporter who makes f-tier eq content (how is this even possible) crying because Seiger and Zaide are left wing extremists and essentially tries to link Seigers left wing extemism with a friendship with Zaide and hints that Zaide should be charged with some sort of crime because of his political beliefs due to his active military status.
All over a game....
Think we need putin to drop some nukes, so americans can go back to doing what they do best lol (which is fighting wars as an underdog for those with failed educations)
Zaide
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I’m not really an idpol guy and don’t really post about politics except for the rare troll of someone taking something too seriously. I’d describe myself as left leaning though for sure.
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Rajaah
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It's a shame how many people have left Faceless (either publicly or quietly) over politics after being dogpiled by the Commie Crew seen above. I'll say this, most of the conservative people in the guild (and there are a lot) keep it to themselves and don't even bother talking about it in channels. I think it was Jerry Seinfeld who said something to the effect of "if you want to know who in Hollywood is conservative, look at who doesn't talk about politics". Maybe it wasn't Jerry. I dunno, but it's a true statement in any case.
I'm historically left-leaning but not since 2020 for some legitimate reasons (BLM smashed a hospital and destroyed a bunch of historical sites where I live, for starters, and our high-profile congressperson proceeded to encourage them and kiss their ass). For starters, tip of the iceberg really. Doesn't mean I agree with everything the right says, I just have a powerful disdain for the left and their "violence is okay when we do it" bullshit that looks insane if you're outside of their bubble. I worked for two Democrat presidential campaigns in the recent past and they were a lot saner then.
It isn't even worth discussing in-guild because I like folks like Sieger and getting into arguments is pointless. Nobody's gonna change anybody's mind about anything in 2025, everybody's hard-headed AF and picking sides is a hell of a drug. Fact is, in politics it's been a bit of a "race to the bottom" for a while now, and as far as I'm concerned both sides have legitimate grievances. It's kind of barking up the wrong tree to tell anyone that their grievances are less legitimate than yours.
Still not going to find a better guild than Faceless in EQ, IMO. It's well-run and it's a guild where you can get substantially better at your class (and the game in general) with even a modicum of effort, just by osmosis. We have people like Sazzabi and Jadawin who elevate the players around them with their metacrafting, and I've sure as hell learned a lot more about SK and Monk (my two main classes, historically) just from having those guys around. Lots of other good players there as well, and most importantly, the guild respects each other's time. If I was going to play EQ full-time there's nobody else I'd rather be running with.
I'm historically left-leaning but not since 2020 for some legitimate reasons (BLM smashed a hospital and destroyed a bunch of historical sites where I live, for starters, and our high-profile congressperson proceeded to encourage them and kiss their ass). For starters, tip of the iceberg really. Doesn't mean I agree with everything the right says, I just have a powerful disdain for the left and their "violence is okay when we do it" bullshit that looks insane if you're outside of their bubble. I worked for two Democrat presidential campaigns in the recent past and they were a lot saner then.
It isn't even worth discussing in-guild because I like folks like Sieger and getting into arguments is pointless. Nobody's gonna change anybody's mind about anything in 2025, everybody's hard-headed AF and picking sides is a hell of a drug. Fact is, in politics it's been a bit of a "race to the bottom" for a while now, and as far as I'm concerned both sides have legitimate grievances. It's kind of barking up the wrong tree to tell anyone that their grievances are less legitimate than yours.
Still not going to find a better guild than Faceless in EQ, IMO. It's well-run and it's a guild where you can get substantially better at your class (and the game in general) with even a modicum of effort, just by osmosis. We have people like Sazzabi and Jadawin who elevate the players around them with their metacrafting, and I've sure as hell learned a lot more about SK and Monk (my two main classes, historically) just from having those guys around. Lots of other good players there as well, and most importantly, the guild respects each other's time. If I was going to play EQ full-time there's nobody else I'd rather be running with.
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Sieger
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The funny thing, my real politics are probably significantly more conservative than people like you think they are. But am I really going to get super into that in a venue like the guild discord or websites like this one? Not really, I'm a meme war veteran, I learned a long time ago that you should never expect a rational, serious political discussion online. Are there venues where that occurs? Sure, it happens, but it's the exception to the norm.
My core political ethos is far more anti-populist than it is being "far left" or "far right", my policy positions are mostly a mixture of stuff that would be mainstream in Bill Clinton's Democratic party or George W. Bush's Republican party. I loathe populism of any kind because I am largely in favor of elites running the country and think the "common man" is a fucking plague that should be beaten with a club anytime it starts acting up.
My political arguments in Discord are almost entirely built around "if someone interjects a very low effort, low information nonsense I'm going to shit on them", and once an "escalation cascade" begins where they start saying dumber and dumber things, I'm going to say more and more incendiary things. I learned a long time ago, there's no "high road" in discussions of this nature.
The other thing is, essentially never did I randomly "start" a political discussion. They always popped off because our cast of low information guys would post some nonsense. But if they were posting low information Bernie Sanders shit, I'd have gone after them for that too. It's because the vast majority of EQ guilds are right wing, that rarely happens, it's no secret probably 70% of any EQ guild are righties, so just based on statistics the dumb shit is going to be posted from that side. I think far too many people are allowed to feel comfortable in sharing dumb ideas that never get challenged. One solution for that is for them to stop sharing their dumb ideas. The other is for them to be bullied into a 90 minute crybaby video if they can't stop themselves from posting dumb ideas.
In that vein, if people truly adhered to the "no politics" rule in a guild, I'd never discuss them. But I don't believe in typical "no politics" rules, where they are loosely enforced, so random mouth breathers drop turds of stupidity here and there and the "polite" guildies have to roll their eyes and tolerate it so they don't break the "no politics" rule. If you want a no politics rule it should mean you get like 3 strikes, 3rd time you mention politics gkick. Otherwise it is just a rule that disarms the reasonable in favor of the stupid and unreasonable. But BTW, no guild will enforce a rule like that because if your top DPS Monk posts stupid political shit 3 times, you're not going to gkick him, hence the problem.
