I have no idea the history between AoS and OGC and TL and Citizen or Modest Man or whatever. I'm in OGC and am playing with them here because Dima is a friend of mine from back in the days when this content was new, from being highly involved with the Warrior serverwide community.
What I do know is this: OGC doesn't really care about you. Nobody really cares about you except your own guild. You're running around all the time telling everyone how AoS is awesome, OGC blows, yadda yadda yadda. You're insecure and your fragile ego only survives with believing you're the best - we get it. Clearing 15 year old content is an 'accomplishment' somehow. (Consequently, OGC wiping to the buffed Vyemm during the first week of the expansion with 3 clerics and 40 people online, on what has historically been a non-raiding day, makes OGC 'shitters').
OGC is trying to be a guild that accomplishes interesting things, earns loot for its members, and is a good citizen of the server. Occasionally, that means doing open world content, but there is no innate desire to hurt AoS (with the exception of the outbursts of anger when you go out of your way to harm us).
On the other side of things, for some reason, you seem to have made it your mission to try to 'hurt' OGC by any means possible, and have twisted the motivations of everything we've done. Which is no surprise, because the level of rage you and your guild express whenever ANY other guild does open world - there's this arrogance where you have declared that EVERYTHING open world is yours, and any attempt to utilize that content is an affront to your sovereignty. If you see us mobilizing towards anything open world, you stalk us - which is often hilarious, like the time we were factioning up mages in Kael for Yelinek CoHs and you dropped everything to follow us around, only to find that we weren't in fact raiding something in Kael - or the time you took to the official forums in rage because another guild mobilized to the open world Naggy's lair, and you 'raced' them, only to find out that Nagafen wasn't spawning, and they were testing positioning. And you actually had the gall to get angry at someone for existing in a place.
There's a reason that your own guildmembers generally avoid being seen with their guildtags, and in private admit that their reasoning is that pretty much the entire server will train or grief them on sight because of their tag. You are -detested- by the general population, because you treat the rest of the server like a zero sum game.
On a few occasions, OGC didn't have the numbers online, so we teamed up with another guild and split the look, because we generally don't run over other guilds and try to maintain good relations. The other guild isn't our 'puppets', there is no formal relationship, it was simply a matter of prudence and cooperation that was positive for both parties.
And at the end of the day, we're perfectly content with every guild on this server, including AoS, to succeed - there's no belief that the only way to win is for others to lose, that you seem to have. If our goal in life was to 'beat' you, we would raid 7 days a week, instead of 3.
This little pissing contest between a few AoS and a few OGC is idiotic, ancient drama that maybe a dozen people have any actual involvement in, but somehow hundreds (or thousands) of people who don't know or care any of the parties involved are caught in the middle - including the majority of both guilds, and all rest of the server caught in the middle.
I've been ignoring your propaganda in this thread for six months, but enough is enough - climb out of your own asshole. Here's a mindfuck - maybe BOTH guilds are good. You can't go five feet without talking shit about a group of almost 100 people, in total, of whom you have no personal issues with, or have ever met, 90%. Grow the fuck up.
