Final Fantasy XIV (Guide in first post)

bolok

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They kind of backed themselves into a corner with that. I’m not sure they can easily get out for non msq content. Every job getting some variety of combo points and bar to spend is a bummer.
 

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the summoner being a tard cycle instead of a dotman or petman seemed like the nail in the coffin of unique playstyles.
 
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Cybsled

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Part of the issue also is they also listen a lot to the Japanese playerbase, who have their own quirk and which can have knock-on effects. One common complaint in Japan was rotation complexity, mostly because it is a pain in the ass on a controller since consoles are probably the biggest playerbase there. I think that was one reason why a lot of classes seemed to get dumbed down

Speaking of dumb, one annoying thing from that interview is the interviewer mentioned the puzzles they had in the 7.3 MSQ and how those seemed well received. But then YoshiP mentioned that hardcore raiders cried that they couldn't skip the puzzles. I liked the puzzles, it made the MSQ a bit more interactive rather than talk to this, go here, etc. Just add a "raider streamer mode" where the puzzles get auto-solved since most of those streamers seem to have room temperature IQ for anything beyond "simon says" in a raid fight
 

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Part of the issue also is they also listen a lot to the Japanese playerbase, who have their own quirk and which can have knock-on effects. One common complaint in Japan was rotation complexity, mostly because it is a pain in the ass on a controller since consoles are probably the biggest playerbase there. I think that was one reason why a lot of classes seemed to get dumbed down

Speaking of dumb, one annoying thing from that interview is the interviewer mentioned the puzzles they had in the 7.3 MSQ and how those seemed well received. But then YoshiP mentioned that hardcore raiders cried that they couldn't skip the puzzles. I liked the puzzles, it made the MSQ a bit more interactive rather than talk to this, go here, etc. Just add a "raider streamer mode" where the puzzles get auto-solved since most of those streamers seem to have room temperature IQ for anything beyond "simon says" in a raid fight
Plugins on PC fix a lot of the complexity issues. Not that I WOULD EVER USE SUCH A THING /cough. But I'm a casualandy and dont do high end raiding.
 

Folanlron

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They already said that Summoner raise would be getting surgically removed from the class in 8.0. Not sure on Red Mage though(but honestly the way the class has been?)

Complexity .. when they have hard times hitting DPS checks .. right.. rofl
 

Cybsled

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People kind of expect red mages to be the backup res at this point - it's been one of their reliable niches, so it wouldn't make sense to remove it from them
 

Malakriss

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The only reason summoners have it is because of the original class link being paired with scholar. Which never became a thing and they deeply regret, but we are happy both jobs still level at the same time.
 

Nabi

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Will never go back to the game. It was a chore to get through Endwalker and even if a new 10/10 xpac drops, dont think I can finish Dawntrail from what I heard. Figure its better to give my char away than have it dead forever.
DM me if anyone is interested. Have a few paid outfits and the cloud bike.
 

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Apparently the lead translater was on the social media advocating for the genocide of conservatives after the kirk thing. I found their problem with the writing this last expansion!
 

Cybsled

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Who, Kate?

You do realize she was lead localization starting in Shadowbringers? Localization has had input in the story, but the main writers are in Japan. Ishikawa not taking lead story in Dawntrail and letting the other writers run loose has more to do with Dawntrail's story woes. The 7.2 and 7.3 adjustments did help salvage the xpac MSQ a bit, kind of like how Stormblood post-patch helped salvage things.
 
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the creeping assness was present (but less so) in shadowbringers with the damn they them pixies. so i could see that.

i blame the localization with a lot of my annoyance just because of the strange statements some characters made in the story that seemed independent of the story, and were uniformly retarded. maybe japan also had rubber bullets, secret lizard men pretending to be stupid. the king making a new language out of thin air and many of the other really really dumb things that are mentioned here and there.... but a lot of it felt really tacked on.
 

Juvarisx

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the creeping assness was present (but less so) in shadowbringers with the damn they them pixies. so i could see that.

i blame the localization with a lot of my annoyance just because of the strange statements some characters made in the story that seemed independent of the story, and were uniformly retarded. maybe japan also had rubber bullets, secret lizard men pretending to be stupid. the king making a new language out of thin air and many of the other really really dumb things that are mentioned here and there.... but a lot of it felt really tacked on.

Can blame em all you want, my wife played through it in Japanese after seeing bits and pieces from in in English from my play through. Its worse. THe JP pop hates the character more then the ENG base does.
 

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hah. yea i mean wuk is real retarded, but once i got a dose of her in the lead-up i knew she was t he new super Lyse. I was more annoyed....hmm well i dunno if i'd say more annoyed. i was prepared for super lyse, i wasn't prepared for the strange retcons, the constant bragging about how ideal and perfect this place was, how utterly unimpacted by the story sofar they were, how each region had a strange culture that didn't have anything offputting to the modern leftist ideals. the aztec's weren't aztec. the wild west wasn't wild west.

i guess what i'm saying is that i feel like the very simple parts of the story/setting/lore were made retarded when they were fine in previous outings. it kind of felt like the bends from the old areas generally consistent and interesting areas with flaws and upsides. new areas felt like safety scissors. it was a huge quality drop. a whole expansion of lyse trying to convince the mud people to stop being so lazy at the start of stormblood.
 

Cybsled

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the creeping assness was present (but less so) in shadowbringers with the damn they them pixies. so i could see that.

i blame the localization with a lot of my annoyance just because of the strange statements some characters made in the story that seemed independent of the story, and were uniformly retarded. maybe japan also had rubber bullets, secret lizard men pretending to be stupid. the king making a new language out of thin air and many of the other really really dumb things that are mentioned here and there.... but a lot of it felt really tacked on.

Making the pixies genderless actually makes them less creepy, considering in-game they are the spirits of dead children reborn as fae
 

Caeden

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Will never go back to the game. It was a chore to get through Endwalker and even if a new 10/10 xpac drops, dont think I can finish Dawntrail from what I heard. Figure its better to give my char away than have it dead forever.
DM me if anyone is interested. Have a few paid outfits and the cloud bike.
Finally. Someone that I agree with. There were some good parts but this turned into taking the one ring to mount doom by the time Endwalker finished.
 

Mao

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the creeping assness was present (but less so) in shadowbringers with the damn they them pixies. so i could see that.

i blame the localization with a lot of my annoyance just because of the strange statements some characters made in the story that seemed independent of the story, and were uniformly retarded. maybe japan also had rubber bullets, secret lizard men pretending to be stupid. the king making a new language out of thin air and many of the other really really dumb things that are mentioned here and there.... but a lot of it felt really tacked on.
Kate Cynwar is directly quoted as saying the pixies were her creation and she was proud of getting the 'they/them' aspect in there. She is more than just a 'localizer'. She was part of the writing team, though not the head or lead. She did side quests and other stuff and was taking on more and more responsiblity. She apparently was more prominent in the Dawntrail bit cause of its 'South America' flavor and I believe was responsible for the English voice cast for DT, to include the infamous casting of Wuk Lamat.

I swapped to German voices, cause listening to Sphene talk about 'Mein Folk, Mein Land' at least made it slightly humorous.

Edit to add in, they let the A team take a break and apparently let the 'new blood' stretch their wings with Dawntrail. I also think a lot of the normal A team were pulled to FF16 or whatever number we're on now and shuffled into more 'producer' roles. Its my understanding this led to people like Kate doing a lot of the daily work for Dawntrail and being less directly managed as in the past.
 
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