Game Streaming Services - Stadia, Geforce Now, xCloud, PS Now

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Google said you need a minimum of 25 Mbits for 1080p 60fps 30 mbits for 4k.

Google says that Stadia supports 4K 60 FPS gameplay, a stat repeated by id Software when it announced DOOM Eternal was coming to the platform. Google told Eurogamer that it expects 1080p streaming to be more likely for connections around 25 Mbps. If you're on a 15 Mbps connection, the resolution and frame rate will drop down to 720p 60 FPS. However, Google's Phil Harrison had a different take on Eurogamer's report. During the event, he said:

Microsoft responds to Stadia:




MS Azure version?

This is where Sony just can't compete...

Yeah, they've been teasing xCloud for a while, just remains to be seen what the $$ and capabilities will be.

Sony's answer thus far is still just PS Now, we don't even really know what their strategy is going into the next generation (whereas w/ MS we have forward/backward compatibility, discounting of the idea of generations, etc). For all we know they could cede all of this for a generation and just double down on offline / matchmaking-based gaming and VR. If this all takes off though they could find themselves perpetually behind in their home/popular markets to well established competitors on a generationless infrastructure.

Hopefully once everything has caught up the services allow us to shift to/from whomever provides the best value proposition at the time. Up for some Sony games? You cancel/suspend the others, sub to Sony's catalog, etc.
 

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yeah the machines they have built are all custom AMD CPU/GPUs inside massive server farm racks, and every user gets their own compute box but there will be additional cloud serving for game servers but they are all next to each other. Its basically LAN gaming scaled up massively, with the twist of all the input and output being pushed out to end users over the last mile.

The PS4 was listed as 4.2 tflops, the xbox one X at 6 tflops, and the new Google stadia boxes at 10 tflops so it can definitely handle rendering 4k/60fps no problem, the X does it pretty decently. By comparison a RTX 2080 or 1080 ti is 10 tflops as well, with a 2080 ti clocking in at 13.4 but of course that isn't factoring in CPU either.

Project Stream for Assassins Creed Odyssey was 90% there. I played 4-5 hours of it and had no issues with latency or rendering, the only thing I didn't like was it was playing at 1080p and was full screen only (not full screen borderless so tabbing out suspended it). I have no idea how something like APEX, Fortnite, World of Warcraft, etc would play under it but we'll find out soon I guess.
 

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>want to play my Google™ Stadia™
>"Welcome to Google™ Stadia™! Please submit to facial scan to begin"
>"Facial scan confirmed, please submit to iris scan"
>"Iris scan confirmed, please submit blood sample"
>"Blood sample confirmed, Game on!"
>fire up Watch Dogs 4
>"Please submit saliva sample to connect to network"
>game finally boots up
>running around city streets, scanning NPCs
>find a democratic activist that enjoys scat furry porn
>shoot xer
>alarms in Google™ data center start blaring
>Google™ Stadia™ Security Team dispatched
>front door kicked in
>dog starts barking, security team blows him away with Google™ Fun Blasters
>”Fellow Googler™! Dangerous activity has been detected on your Google™ account! Please come with us for a re-education course at your local Goolag™ facility."
>16 hours a day of re-education courses
>Daily estrogen injections
>at least I don't have to update my local hardware to game anymore
 
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meStevo

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>want to play my Google™ Stadia™
>"Welcome to Google™ Stadia™! Please submit to facial scan to begin"
>"Facial scan confirmed, please submit to iris scan"
>"Iris scan confirmed, please submit blood sample"
>"Blood sample confirmed, Game on!"
>fire up Watch Dogs 4
>"Please submit saliva sample to connect to network"
>game finally boots up
>running around city streets, scanning NPCs
>find a democratic activist that enjoys scat furry porn
>shoot xer
>alarms in Google™ data center start blaring
>Google™ Stadia™ Security Team dispatched
>front door kicked in
>dog starts barking, security team blows him away with Google™ Fun Blasters
>”Fellow Googler™! Dangerous activity has been detected on your Google™ account! Please come with us for a re-education course at your local Goolag™ facility."
>16 hours a day of re-education courses
>Daily estrogen injections
>at least I don't have to update my local hardware to game anymore

Seen this?

 
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Didn't Steam Link have issues just from home computer to home TV?

Yup. 300mbps and I cant wirelessly stream anything graphically intensive in the least without it looking like shit. Great for some games though.
 

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Wonder what the price per month would be. Surely a solid amount more than Netflix. At what point does someone pay $30 /month and still have to buy the absolute best games, just say fuck it and buy their own hardware still.

Really feels like they have to hit on something incredible with some crazy multiplayer feature, or something that is so encompassing (like Steam on steroids) for this to explode.
 

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Another Google money laundry tax write off project promising the world and never reaches release? All this development money is probably slush funding another dozen socialist potus / congressional candidates.
 

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Intriguing way to make up for the bitcoin mining implosion. I'd rather not give up my devices honestly, I like devices and I'd rather they focus on delivering quality devices without secret cameras and latent microphones you thought you told us about. I honestly wish I could just quit google, maybe it's time!
 

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Pricing, Game Reveals, Launch Info & More
 
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Google Stadia Pricing Leaks, Will Have Both Subscription And Individual Purchases

  • There will be a base subscription available when Stadia launches in November, for $11.99 Canadian per month. This one will give you access to some Stadia games at 4K resolution/60FPS.
  • Other games—newer ones, especially—you’ll have to buy.
  • In 2020, Google will launch a “Stadia Base” model that’s totally free, but only allows you to play games at 1080p resolution.
  • A pricey Stadia Founder’s Edition will be for sale this fall ($169 Canadian) that includes a Chromecast Ultra, a Stadia controller, a three-month subscription, and Destiny 2 (which, as Kotaku revealed yesterday, will be on the platform at launch).
  • Doom, Assassin’s Creed Odyssey, the new Tomb Raider trilogy, and The Division 2 are also part of the Stadia launch lineup.
  • Minimum internet speed requirement is a 10mbps download/1mbps upload.


Find out if it is accurate soon enough. Sounds like Microsoft xCloud will be doing the same thing for the most part as well.
 

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You will have to buy newer games, presumably at close to MSRP, to play on Stadia in a streaming mode. da fuq? hard pass on that shit. If they had a $10 or less/mo that gave you access to a HUGE library then its maybe interesting, but either you pay $10-12/mo for older games and nothing new or you pay $0/mo next year for 1080p versions of those same old games?

lame
 

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You will have to buy newer games, presumably at close to MSRP, to play on Stadia in a streaming mode. da fuq? hard pass on that shit. If they had a $10 or less/mo that gave you access to a HUGE library then its maybe interesting, but either you pay $10-12/mo for older games and nothing new or you pay $0/mo next year for 1080p versions of those same old games?

lame

Seems like this is targeting people that don't want to fork over $100s for the latest console or PC upgrades, so $10/mth seems reasonable in that regard, but if you already own a Console and/or PC then it's definitely not worth.
 
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meStevo

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Funny how the article says the plan sounds convoluted when it basically is identical to video services like Prime Video or Game Pass... subscription gets you a library w/ other titles available when purchased individually.

As more things like this pop up, more and more we really need a 'movies anywhere' for games.
 

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If the Founders Edition had some decent perks you could maybe think about it but if this is accurate, nah. If this makes it past a year and the library grows I could see doing a monthly then.
 

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45 mbps for all the bells and whistles sounds pretty good.