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Janx said:

Is it confidential information? Imagine its already available.

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The jury instructions were read in open court. They are most definitely public domain.

Point being homework just opens the door for discussion and "dictionary" as the defense said.

A lot of googling will take place as a result of being allowed to bring the instructions home.

Which inevitably leads to more media exposure via newsfeeds. It doesn't really matter if they are public domain or not.

jayrebb said:

Point being homework just opens the door for discussion and "dictionary" as the defense said.

A lot of googling will take place as a result of being allowed to bring the instructions home.

Which inevitably leads to more media exposure via newsfeeds. It doesn't really matter if they are public domain or not.

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I was simply responding to whether they were confidential. Which they aren't. And no, the court shouldn't be allowing hard copies to go home, but if jurors want to find them online, they will. It would be incumbent on the defense to prove jury misconduct, but I'm not so sure they did their primary job of properly defending Kyle, let alone going after jury misconduct.

Janx said:

Is it confidential information? Imagine its already available.

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Jury instructions are filed into the case and public record (if the case isn't sealed). There are probably already proposed jury instructions available. The actual ones wouldn't normally be until after the trial when all the exhibit lists and minutes are filed.

It's the jury questionnaires that get dicey with juror names and potential personal info. Example: sexual assault cases will tell jurors to not be specific but they have to answer questions like have they been sexually assaulted. And despite judges instructions to not include personal info and that the questionnaires will become public record, there are always a handful of jurors that will gives names of family members that molested them. Now in the public record with their nes on it.

LachiusTZ said:

That excited to get ground into dust beneath the boots of the administrative state? Have you not paid attention?

Fuck that give me anarchy. At least then I can die on my feet and still half free.

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I didn't say anarchy and anarchy isn't what the left is pushing.

Kaines said:

I was simply responding to whether they were confidential. Which they aren't. And no, the court shouldn't be allowing hard copies to go home, but if jurors want to find them online, they will. It would be incumbent on the defense to prove jury misconduct, but I'm not so sure they did their primary job of properly defending Kyle, let alone going after jury misconduct.

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Defense appears satisfied with the various mistrial motions and is riding on that.

As soon as they made the motion you could see them sitting back more letting their guts hang out. Their whole demeanor changed.

Every argument they made since the mistrial motion sounds slow, cumbersome and taxing. Hard R is exasperated just having to go through with this until the ultimate occurs and the mistrial is declared.

He had about 4 more inches of gut hanging out when he told the judge he's concerned about dictionary games with the instructions. He really doesn't care anymore.

jayrebb said:

Defense appears satisfied with the various mistrial motions and is riding on that.

As soon as they made the motion you could see them sitting back more letting their guts hang out. Their whole demeanor changed.

Every argument they made since the mistrial motion sounds slow, cumbersome and taxing. Hard R is exasperated just having to go through with this until the ultimate occurs and the mistrial is declared.

He had about 4 more inches of gut hanging out when he told the judge he's concerned about dictionary games with the instructions. He really doesn't care anymore.

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If there's a mistrial without prejudice AR Kyle needs to dump these faggots.

Hoss said:

what is black pilled?

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Popular Nihilism. Everything sucks and is doomed and there's nothing you can do to fix it.

The refuge of weak men who believe meaninglessness/doom absolves them of responsibility for forging their way in the world.

Rude said:

If there's a mistrial without prejudice AR Kyle needs to dump these faggots.

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I wasn't making excuses for them. They've been ineffective regardless.

If he does the retrial with them I'd question room temp IQ. The NAU shooter (somewhat similar circumstances to Kyle) used a different defense team both times, but his first defense team was very effective as I recall. There are other similarities in the NAU case to Kyle however in terms of the right to self-defense against an angry mob.