Gloomhaven

Mizake said:

Some of us finally hitting level 2! Good to hear about the Cragheart, the person playing Cragheart in our group is getting a little discouraged because she always acts so late in the turn so her best laid plans often go awry. I'll let her know to keep truckin' and the character will improve by level 4.

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So, what really helps out with the Cragheart is a little card called Unstable Upheaval. It's a 13 initiative double loss card, and double losses aren't typically things you want to bring. For most classes, that would be an absolute shit card...but for the Cragheart, it's a 13 initiative move 2, and that is honestly the best thing you have at level 1. Being able to toss a boulder while things are still bunched up or heal someone that needs it before they die is super important. Take it, use it for quite a few levels just as a move 2. It totally changes the Cragheart

Same thing with level 2...a lot of people think Sentient Growth is one of the best Cragheart cards. But the other card is Explosive Punch, which is a 28 initiative move 4. The Cragheart has 2 baseline issues with the class...slow initiative and low movement. Explosive Punch solves both.

Try those changes out and see the Cragheart completely change from slow lumbering sack of rock to an unstoppable landslide of awesome.

Sumdain x said:

I have a level 3 mind thief at the moment, and wish I had gone tinkerer, I feel like my builds for most scenarios are pretty on rails.

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No you don't, tinkerer is pretty bad.

MT has pretty powerful damage and excellent CC. Tinkerer has, uhh..heals? Heals are pretty much the most inefficient action possible in this game, so the rest of your party really needs to make up for the Tinkerer, honestly.

I loved the mindthief. Late game, the double enhance thing and cranium explode or whatever... fun stuff.

Yeah when sharing initiative values during turn planning, we say stuff like “early first quarter” and such.

Melee summons are awful in this game, and really you have to think about them in terms of being a preemptive heal. That's all they're gonna do...take one hit for you and die. The only good summons are ranged, everything else is crap.

As far as augments go on the MT, The Mind's Weakness (+2 damage) is the best until you reach high levels and replace all your melee attacks. The higher level MT cards are mostly ranged attacks, which augments don't affect. At that point, you can make a case for silent scream (heal 2 range 2) because almost everything at high levels applies some sort of effect like wound or poison, and if you're only attacking twice per cycle thru your hand, 4 damage is a lot less impressive than curing 2 poisons.

I got bored with the endgame starter wizard I think it's called Elemental is through something because of how overpowered it got and it was taking me forever to complete my quest. After three games in a row of me just so low in the entire dungeon while everybody else ran around grabbing coins they agreed to let me change classes. I've been playing The Bard a bunch and if you do the shenanigans where you stack the enemy Deck with curses and make the enemy always a disadvantage it kind of makes the game easy mode but everyone else gets to do their thing and it's a lot less boring than simply Burning Down the entire house every time. They're definitely ruts in this game where you can't get the story moving or go anywhere with your character though in terms of development. One good use for your pet is that they count is an ally so any buff that adds blesses that includes the pet will stack blesses in the owner's deck. So familiar pets have one use its to put them down with the beginning of the dungeon while they're never quite catch up they'll keep being there to add extra buffs 2 your deck for when The Bard or someone else does AE bless. Bianna the aren't much use especially the ones that come from cards because they shorten up your deck rotation and make you exhaust quicker.

Indiana Tinker is really boring to play and it levels up probably the slowest out of any class in the game. My wife is playing our Tinker in the group and she's gotten pretty good but it's just slow to level up and you never really do much other than one big deal at some point in the middle of the map. The class also has way too many Fern cards compared to others so even though it's got a 12 card hand it still sucks to play because all of your good XP attack and he'll cards are generally ones that are burning and there done. It seems a little after I played The Bard because my buff songs kind of turned her character into sort of a utility tank and I was able to help her out by moving her with some of my cards so she can get into position for her plays a little more easily, but she found the ticker to be fairly frustrating to play. I'm pretty sure if your friend is burned out it's probably because of the nature that class.

faille said:

I'm really looking forward to checking out the digital version.
My group kinda fell apart so I haven't played my copy in yonks. Tried solo a few times, and it was still good, but not the same and a bit of a pain to setup for.

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Almost 2 years to release. You'll be waiting awhile yet.

Hateyou said:

It comes out on steam next Wednesday. I’m guessing early release and just a few missions, but it’s a start.

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Oh, I figured you guys knew.

No, 4 classes at release (so not even what the TT game starts with unlocked), no campaign, no multiplayer support, and they're not planning on a launch until 2021. Oh, and multiplayer is gonna be the last thing they add.

So, typical early access. A whole lot of nothing to show, but pay us and we'll work on it!