GoT - Is Over, Post Your Drogon Sightings

Honestly, Martin should have began book 4 instead of just right after the Red Wedding but 6-10 years afterwards. Show is suffering the same problems I felt in book 4 and 5. Just lots of meandering expository on a slow journey to nowhere. I also like how the fan theory that the Hound died, but not Sandor Clegane. Every time the Hound's death is mentioned, its the Hound and never Sandor.

Springbok_sl said:

Ya the writing this season is all over the place. Decent episode but following 5+ story arcs week in week out is a bit draining. Enjoyed the fight scene though

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The writing and flow for this week's episode was different because the director was different. This week's was similar to week 1's, which gave us just a few minutes of each plot. Kind of wish they'd give us maybe just three plots a week, so each one could get 20 minutes, but I know it's hard because they have so much shit going on right now. Honestly, I don't know how they're going to wrap everything up in like 17 more episodes. Just doesn't feel like that's going to be nearly enough time.

Get fucked, Olly.

Dany's scene was the most boring next to tyrion's "hey, lets play a drinking game!" what the fuck was that shit? Varys might be lying about what that chick said since we didnt get to hear it. i liked Arya's ninja training, liked the ToJ and totally expected them to tease that shit out. jon snow was pretty fucking awesome and im sure the hate ollie subreddit must be cheering and shitposting gloriously right now. i think The High Sparow is trying to get in Tommen's head.

i was highly rustled over how they handed rickon over like its no big thing, he's a fucking male Stark, heir to the goddamn northren kings back 10,000 years from the line of First Men. he isnt a poker chip, you Umber assholes, he is the one you should be rallying your banner around. what the shit is going on here?

ramsay will declare gay marriage legal and marry rickon

unfortunately the north are even more conservative than ISIS so they declare tranny Rickon and Ramsay abominations and North Carolina them

honestly i just don't give a shit about any character other than Varys, Littlefinger, and Hot Pie anymore

also how shitty was it that dany got her clothes ripped off but we saw nothing

Umbers could have found another direwolf to kill. Rickon could be willing participant in the ruse. Umbers could maybe be in league with someone (Littlefinger?) and are just vying for position so they can go all 'The North remembers' and back stab the Boltons when the time is right.

But I think that's just me wanting to see the great northern conspiracy theory play out in the show. I want my cool 'The North remembers' moment. I want my Frey pies.

The simpler solution is probably the right one. House Umber of the books is not House Umber of the show. Umbers are just an easy way to get Rickon back into the plot and to give Ramsey a card to play against Sansa/Jon/The North. Ramsey will probably be killed this season but there's no need to give that victory to a new character when you could give it to someone we already know. Sansa or Jon will be the downfall of Ramsey in the show, not some northern conspiracy.

Guess I'm the only one who thought the fight choreography for the Tower of Joy fight was fucking terrible. Obviously not sand snake terrible, but it really looked like shit.

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and the fact that Sansa is going to show up at Castle Black just after Jon leaves is fucking tedious, hopefully they'll meet each other on the road instead of the writers dragging that story out even longer.

It would be fully awesome if we find out that Rickon/Osha being gone all that time meant they were hiding in the North, plotting. Robb proved his mettle, especially with the Umbers. I'd love to see a total mind fuck where Rickon gets brought back to Winterfell to do the slow conversion back to the King in the North.

But I agree the easiest explanation is probably the correct one. Rickon is likely just there so Jon can save him and then restore him to his seat. Sansa will probably go the way of the books, (seems to be hinting Petyr coming back into her story) and with Arya and Bran having their own shit going on, Rickon is the only heir.

That wolf head looked super small - I'm trying to reread book 1 now, but from what I remember, Shaggy was a freakin monster, and super wild. I sort of feel he'd be the hardest wolf to take down.

Fully satisfied seeing that asshole Ollie get his though, god damn. Worth the price of admission right there.

Clearly Martin has already written the Tower of Joy chapter, there is no way that scene was that good without it. Totally lived up to years of hype.

I thought the actor playing Osha was playing awfully sheepish when they pulled the mask off her head. Remember what she was like in S1? The last way anyone would describe her was coy. If she was truly being betrayed, I have a feeling she'd be going berzerk. Then again, could just be awful writing.

Royal_sl said:

Well they chinced up the ToJ scene. I can deal with them changing the numbers up and giving Dayne dual wield and the fight choreography was pretty good (but please, calling anything better than Sand Snake combat is hardly a compliment). But why abbreviate one of the best exchanges of dialog from the book? What exactly did they cut it short for?

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It's almost all about things that didn't happen in the series - Willem Darry and Paxter Redwyne were both cut.

It's also originally a dream sequence - people just don't talk like that normally, which isn't an issue for a fever dream, but seems odd for a literal vision.

I kind of wanted Olly to start saying some final words, then Jon just - whamm! death for you.

reavor_sl said:

also seems completely against dayne's character to prepare to strike down an unarmed opponent, thought he was supposed to be the knightliest of knights.

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He'd already beaten him. Letting a defeated opponent pick his sword back up is retarded, not knightly.