GoT - Is Over, Post Your Drogon Sightings

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I was thinking today, and it's probably either been said or doesn't make sense based on something I've forgotten, but Melisandre said that she saw a victory at winterfell and that Jon Snow was fighting there in the flames. Is it possible that she just assumed it was Stannis' victory but she was actually seeing an attack further in the future where Jon and the Wildlings retake Winterfell and the fact that Stannis would be getting his shit pushed in before that happened was just not mentioned?
 

Cybsled

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They explained they didn't show Stannis' head get cut off because they didn't feel the gratuitous violence would have served a purpose.
 

Drinsic

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I was thinking today, and it's probably either been said or doesn't make sense based on something I've forgotten, but Melisandre said that she saw a victory at winterfell and that Jon Snow was fighting there in the flames. Is it possible that she just assumed it was Stannis' victory but she was actually seeing an attack further in the future where Jon and the Wildlings retake Winterfell and the fact that Stannis would be getting his shit pushed in before that happened was just not mentioned?
That's pretty much what everyone has assumed it would be ever since Stannis lost.
 

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I was thinking today, and it's probably either been said or doesn't make sense based on something I've forgotten, but Melisandre said that she saw a victory at winterfell and that Jon Snow was fighting there in the flames. Is it possible that she just assumed it was Stannis' victory but she was actually seeing an attack further in the future where Jon and the Wildlings retake Winterfell and the fact that Stannis would be getting his shit pushed in before that happened was just not mentioned?
Everything Melisandre sees in the flames is true, it just sometimes isn't true the way she thinks it is.
 

Gavinmad

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They explained they didn't show Stannis' head get cut off because they didn't feel the gratuitous violence would have served a purpose.
Yeah because stabbing a pregnant woman in the stomach (who wasn't even AT the wedding in the books) wasn't gratuitous.
 

Cybsled

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Well, the Red Wedding's whole purpose was to shock. Stannis dying doesn't need some decapitation actually shown.
 

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Yeah because stabbing a pregnant woman in the stomach (who wasn't even AT the wedding in the books) wasn't gratuitous.
I see your point but I think that's simply more shocking than gratuitous; seeing as it was the first 'move' of the ambush I don't see how you really avoid showing it. The most recent scene with Ramsay was far more uncomfortable and probably could have just shown him leading her into the dog pits and be done with it. I originally thought that baby was going into the brazier though.
 

Tenks

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Haven't they already shown Ned and that Karstark dude getting their heads lopped off
 

Siddar

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The budgets werent as tight back then. Very likely just a cost saving move not showing the decapitation of Stanis.

Just like the vanishing dogs in episode one and the off screen deaths of Walda and baby last episode. Those scenes would not have been cheap to create.
 

Xevy

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The budgets werent as tight back then. Very likely just a cost saving move not showing the decapitation of Stanis.
Lol wut.

KY jelly + red dye + mannequin torso + mannequin head + mask of his face (almost all the main characters have a real life mask of their face for stunt purposes). Done.

Either Stannis isn't dead or this is the biggest fucking goof by them so far.
 

DickTrickle

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That's a pretty retarded and exaggerated takeaway. Them not showing the kill is the biggest goof of the series? Even though not every death scene has been shown?
 

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Stannis is dead. They don't need to show every head being crushed to make sure idiots know what happened. Using that same logic, Roose Bolton's wife and son are alive, since we didn't witness the dogs tearing them apart.
 

Faltigoth

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I thought it was a bit of respect. Stannis was well loved by many, and despite perhaps not deserving it due to his actions, he went out with dignity at the hand of someone who treated him with the proper respect before whacking him.

That was one death where it made sense to have it happen offscreen, at least to me.
 

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Stannis is dead. Roose would have been "Where the fuck is Stannis?" and Ramsey would have enjoyed hunting him down rather than lie about Stannis's death for no real benefit.
 

Drinsic

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They don't need a close-up of the blade slicing through his neck or anything, but blood on the snow or anything after the swing really would remove the whole "WHY DIDN'T THEY SHOW IT?" aspect. When you make a point to show hundreds of gruesome deaths in your show, having a major character's death suddenly cut away at the last second is understandably suspicious as shit. I think he's definitely dead, but the way they "showed" it was also definitely retarded.
 

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So your basic argument hinges on conjecture about the outcome of a story based upon what you think the obvious outcomes are despite GRRM constantly going against obvious storylines?
What are you talking about? Both Whitewalkers and dragons are in the story. So he's going to have to deal with them eventually. Pretending after all this time that they aren't that important in the overall story arc would be dumb as shit. I agree with what others have stated as well: when he first began writing the books he said "snow zombies, cool, they'll be interesting to have in there. And dragons, have to have dragons." So now they're in the story but serve no real function in moving the plot forward. Now he's stuck with them and he's going to have to find a way to fit them into the conclusion of the tale that doesn't come off as anticlimactic. That's if he ever finishes the series.