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To fix Season 8 you need to start in season 7. Shit went off the rails real quick.
I like many of the proposals here though, if only FoH could have replaced D&D.
 
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To really fix it you'd have to go back and totally revamp Dorne, the Ironborn and lots of other shit. That's like season 5-8 not just season 8.
 
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This is how easy it is to fix Season 8 with some edits and a better finale:

Ep 1: Basically the same as what we got. Trim some fat and move the Dany/Sansa pissing contest to this episode.

Ep 2: Delete 90% of this useless episode. Do the Sam/Jorah/Jon stuff, then jump straight into the battle for Winterfel, similar to what we got, but Jon and Arya only severely wound the Night King, who retreats on a wounded frost Viserion.

Ep 3: Winter lessens but still is bitter. Starts off with Jon wanting to pursue north, but Dany tries to convince him to turn south, to help her fight for 'her' throne and defeat Cersei. The decision is made for Jon when Dany's fleet is attacked and destroyed by Cersei/Euron's forces, capturing Missandei. Jon and Dany's army marches south, with no fleet and severely depleted/wounded forces. Now we have the rest of this episode while they march south where we can show Dany starting to grow desperate and crazy, without her closest advisors like Jorah and Missandei to council and humanize her.

Ep 4: Dany alienates Tyrion and tries to manipulate/pussywhip Jon, increasingly desperate as her window to take the throne closes. They arrive at KL, forces exhausted and morale low, and begin the siege hastily. Dany uses Rhaegal against the walls as a show of force, it goes poorly and Rhaegal dies to the ballista at this point instead of in the prior naval battle. Dany goes crazy when Rhaegal dies, and fearing defeat, hops on Drogon, sacks KL, yada yada like what we got. Jaime helps Cersei escape the crumbling Red Keep. Episode ends with Dany seizing the throne.

Ep 5: A very paranoid and fascist Dany uses the Dothraki and the Unsullied to tear apart what's left of KL looking for Cersei, going even crazier, murdering anyone suspected of being a Cersei loyalist in the street. Arya is briefly tempted to help her, as she wants vengeance against Cersei as well, but decides against it, leaving to head north. Greyworm catches the small council plotting, with Tyrion, Varys, Davos, etc begging Jon to take the throne from Dany and imprison her until she comes to her senses. Jon and Bran are only interested in going into the Land of Always Winter to pursue the Night King, fearing he will return to take Winterfel where Sansa has remained and eventually march south for Bran. Jon is brought before Dany by the Unsullied, where we get the same speech from Dany we got originally, with Jon killing Dany, and Drogon melting the throne. End episode.

Ep 6: Now we have room for a final, movie-length episode to give the series a proper fantasy ending. Jon and the remaining living heroes venture into the Land of Always Winter, fight the Night King and Viserion in some kind of ice fortress. Final mysteries regarding various long-running theories about the Night King are revealed. Bran remains in the Land of Always Winter to keep Winter at bay for as long as he lives. In the epilogue, Jon returns to the wall with Drogon, and various characters (Sam, Jaime, Podrick, Bronn) take the black to rebuild the wall and train a new Night's Watch. Jaime reveals that Cersei was pregnant. A century of endless Summer has begun and Sansa is Queen of the Seven Kingdoms with her capital in Winterfel. Arya is her Master of Whisperers, and we see her instructing a shadowed figure (who looks like Jaqen) to find Cersei and her child, fearing the child will someday return for the throne like Dany did. Brienne leads the Queensguard, swearing in The Hound as a member after he rejected taking the black. Varys and Tyrion are in the final scene, tasked with rebuilding King's Landing, and arguing whether to rename it Queen's Folly or Dragon's Fall.
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this sounds terrible and its still tons better than what we got.
 
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since the poem was about the end of the world. I wonder why none of the fan endings, arn't just. "and then they lose." survivors fleeing Westeros. A few of the broken heroes leading a band to Valyria or something.
warcraft 1>2 that shit.

hell. Dany never setting foot on Westeros would have been great. She builds her army, gets her ships.. And by the time shes ready to return and claim her throne... there is no throne to take.
 
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There was a released chapter from the next book, where Euron is capturing all kinds of holly men in his search for something to control / destroy dragons. So, at least the ”lets kill a dragon with a ballista” idiocy will be better in the book.
 
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How do the undead get past the wall without a dragon?
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The only way to make the finale good was to have Jon Snow on the throne. Otherwise, what was the fucking point of bringing him back from the dead? He didn't kill the Night King, he really didn't do jack shit after he was resurrected. Have Jon Snow kill the Night King. Have him take the army of the North to King's Landing. Have him kill Dany, then he takes the throne. He's the rightful heir to the throne anyway. The entire god damn point of the story was finding out that
Jon Snow was really Rhaegar's son. That was the biggest reveal in the story. It meant jack fucking shit in the grand scheme of the plot, so him being the prince's son was completely meaningless. Him being brought back from the dead was completely meaningless, which made the entire story completely meaningless.

Only other way to go was to have the big "fuck you" finale and have Cersei wind up on the throne, with some huge plot twist, and a lot of people would've been pissed, but it would've also been a pretty cool ending. Bran on the throne ruined the entire story.
 
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Otherwise, what was the fucking point of bringing him back from the dead?
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Throne, or Jon needed to die again as the prophecy passed and the magic left him. He should have never been considered truly alive if they weren't going to put him on the throne.

Resurrection to go to the wall is the biggest travesty of the series. The magic should have just left him and he drops over dead in that case. Add in a lord of light explanation by a bystander, from Bran would make sense since I don't think anyone else of the Light would be around to explain. The Raven would know a few things about the prophecy and magic. Have Bran informed of his death, Bran stares off into distance "He was never alive". Then call cut on the Jon story.
 
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Blah blah blah. The series ended as garbage. Any future GoT media will not be written by GRRM (at least not new material) so will also be garbage.

The end. Next franchise, please.
 
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Caliane said:
since the poem was about the end of the world. I wonder why none of the fan endings, arn't just. "and then they lose." survivors fleeing Westeros. A few of the broken heroes leading a band to Valyria or something.
warcraft 1>2 that shit.

hell. Dany never setting foot on Westeros would have been great. She builds her army, gets her ships.. And by the time shes ready to return and claim her throne... there is no throne to take.
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That is my ending. Only I leave it to the viewer's imagination as the scene fades to black with the John/Arya/Night King dance in the throne room.
 
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People say stupid shit like that all the time. WORST MOVIE EVER. Apparently somehow movies like Catwoman or Highlander 2 no longer exist.
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It's like the rings of hell in Dante's Inferno, there isn't just one movie that is the worst of them all. There is a rung where all the movies that make you walk out of the theater or burn a theater down occupy.
 
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Caliane

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How do the undead get past the wall without a dragon?
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Bay of ice freezes over would be the most logical. "they go around" is typically how walls get beaten.

But, hubris of man. humans doing something stupid to break it, is very reasonable, and probably more poetic. It should have been seeded earlier. If people didn't REALLY believe in the whitewalkers for generations, then someone would have been "harvesting" the "magical" ice of the wall. in secret or private. think about how we treated temples and tombs etc in the past. the colossus at Rhodes. Shit gets looted. i'd probably have had someone mining the wall. and structurally weakening it. but thats not something that could just be brought up now in the books. it would have had been hinted at long ago.
 
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Gavinmad said:
this sounds terrible and its still tons better than what we got.
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Right, it's not supposed to be an ideal ending, as that would require going many seasons back to fix the damage they'd already done, but just demonstrate how they could have saved the show with minor re-writes and a better finale.

What we got was a totally unsatisfying ending that I would have imagined that if they had shown it to a test audience or two they would have gotten feedback that it was complete shit.
 
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Deathwing

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Caliane said:
Bay of ice freezes over would be the most logical. "they go around" is typically how walls get beaten.

But, hubris of man. humans doing something stupid to break it, is very reasonable, and probably more poetic. It should have been seeded earlier. If people didn't REALLY believe in the whitewalkers for generations, then someone would have been "harvesting" the "magical" ice of the wall. in secret or private. think about how we treated temples and tombs etc in the past. the colossus at Rhodes. Shit gets looted. i'd probably have had someone mining the wall. and structurally weakening it. but thats not something that could just be brought up now in the books. it would have had been hinted at long ago.
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The bay freezing over should have been hinted at too. As it is, the show makes it look like the Night King's plan involved a macguffin he couldn't have possibly known existed.
 
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A real better ending for Cersei would have her birthing a child and having it be a dwarf, her trying to kill the baby and Jaime tossing her out a fucking window.
 
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