The_Black_Log Foler
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So one thing you add before you cook and another after? It's a process to a finished product. Why does how you get there matter?
Ham vs Turkey
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No. You add things to both to cook them. One, when finished, tastes good on its own. The other needs gravy and cranberry sauce, regardless of how you cook it. How are you this dense? How can you not understand what I'm saying?
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Fair enough. Turkey generally does need accoutrements whereas ham is godlike on its own.
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ZyyzYzzy
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Uh. You absolutely can cool turkey with juice breasts and amazing thighs if you aren't retarded and can measure temperature with a meat thermometer. Just spatchcock the bird and protect the breasts with the thighs so the white meat doesn't overcook. Fucking heathens
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The_Black_Log Foler
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So does your ham not need seasoning?
Are you retarded? Of course it does. Read carefully:
1. cooking turkey: season it, cook it.
2. cooking ham: season it, cook it.
results:
1. turkey needs something to be tasty after being cooked. Serve with cranberry and gravy.
2. ham is fine after being cooked without further accoutrements. Eat it alone, or put it on sandwiches by itself.
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Yeah, I've done that, too. Know what tastes better? Virtually every other bird you can cook.
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While we always have turkey for Thanksgiving, it was rare to have either for Christmas. Dad is a chef, so he would cook whatever he felt like that year. steak, seafood, Mexican or some classic French most of the time.
This year it's nothing because both he and my mom have bat flu and I'm just trying to keep them from ending up in the hospital again. Despite growing up working in restaurants with dad, I am a pretty lousy cook.
This year it's nothing because both he and my mom have bat flu and I'm just trying to keep them from ending up in the hospital again. Despite growing up working in restaurants with dad, I am a pretty lousy cook.
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Maybe. But I know I'm not alone. Turkey is a tradition. If the tradition didn't exist likely no one would buy it. You have to work hard, spatchcock or whatever, to make it good. Or you can roast a chicken, goose, or duck and have it come out awesome. People's loyalty to turkey is remarkable.
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Alasliasolonik
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We are making a bunch of these for Christmas.
I prefer bone in ham with extra spicy German mustard.
I prefer bone in ham with extra spicy German mustard.
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1000% agree. Same shit every time. There are so many better things to eat but there is still that urge to cook that junk near the holidays. We just normally do it a week or two before just to get it over with.
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The_Black_Log Foler
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You're picking out parts of the meal preparation that fit your narrative.
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ZyyzYzzy
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Literally takes less time to spatchcock and cook it that way then the old roast it whole...so I guess you lied and haven't done it that way. Also it isn't exclusive to turkey, it is the superior way to roast any bird.
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