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Ravishing · Apr 7, 2018

Lightning Lord Rule said:
Looks pretty good to me. 2/2 is weak for 4 mana, but puts a 3 cost secret into play, which has the potential to be really good (Discover mechanic implies it will be mage only secrets, not any class).

Even more evidence for a spiteful mage archetype incoming.

Yea it would be good in a Spiteful deck, still get some secrets without ruining the Spiteful RNG. 2/2 body for an extra 1 mana (and inability to exactly select the secret), is worth it. Seems good.

zzeris · Apr 7, 2018

Lightning Lord Rule said:
Looks pretty good to me. 2/2 is weak for 4 mana, but puts a 3 cost secret into play, which has the potential to be really good (Discover mechanic implies it will be mage only secrets, not any class).

Even more evidence for a spiteful mage archetype incoming.

I agree with both of you. An elemental spite deck would be pretty powerful.

Ravishing · Apr 7, 2018

zzeris said:
I agree with both of you. An elemental spite deck would be pretty powerful.

I'm not sure that this is better than the "discover an elemental" dude. And even he isn't played in most of the decks I think. But card draw is typically strong, so maybe.

slippery · Apr 7, 2018

If Spiteful is one of your higher win conditions that card is better. Plus there are tons of bad elementals too, so a card in your deck is probably worth more.

Ravishing · Apr 7, 2018

So just FYI about Spiteful.

After Rotation, there will be only 4 minions at 10 cost... unless we get more this expansion (none revealed yet).
Tyrantus
Deathwing
Ultrasaur
Sea Giant

So Spiteful with 10 cost in deck is going to be a lot stronger.

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Also, I was toying with deckbuilder, and I'm not sold that Spiteful in mage will work. Mainly because the draw 3 minion card is a 2 mana spell, and it's going to fuck you up more often then not. Either Spiteful will pick it, or it's going to discard some big spells.

slippery · Apr 7, 2018

I mean if you spiteful you just don't play that card

Ravishing · Apr 8, 2018

slippery said:
I mean if you spiteful you just don't play that card

yes well, you're not going to play Spiteful if you have 0 card draw or much AoE. Priest get away with it cause their 10 cost is board control and they have the dragon AoE.
Elementals also have battlecries/AoE to help board control, but you need card draw which is why when they started pushing this "minion mage" deck, I suggested maybe you could throw in Spiteful. But I'm thinking just a straight up Elemental deck is better

Ravishing · Apr 8, 2018

I'm mostly happy with this list so far, no Spitefuls:
I have 2 flex right now that I threw a Witch's Cauldron & Toki in.... if I'm cutting most spells, at least I can generate some Shaman spells.
My only spells are the 4 Freeze spells.. and the Book of Specters
Just need to get to Jaina.

Dollmaster+Book of Specters

7 mana
up to 5/9 total stats
Looking for Pyros, Witch's Cauldron, Applebaum, Geddon* (you'll still have 3/5 in stats on board and might clear some opponent stuff, and if you're in DK, you get a heal)
If you pull Doomsayer, it'll be a 1/1, can ping it if on 9 mana, or maybe opponent will

Arugal+Book of Specters for the value.
Toki is here for the fun

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Ravishing · Apr 8, 2018

From Reddit: (Not on Hearthpwn yet, dunno if these are real yet)

If real....
Prince Liam is a nice way to prevent many "bad" draws after you get past turn 2-3. How many 1-cost will Paladin play though. It's cute, but the "dude deck" is dying and I'm seeing just the 1/1 taunt as the main 1-drop. Handbuff also dies with rotation. I'm skeptical that this sees much play.

Shudderwock will be insane. I hope his effect isn't canceled if he's killed/evolved. Battlecries can do so much. I easily see this in an evolve deck. He can summon a 2/3 taunt then evolveX2 himself+ the taunt, among other things. I'm sure there will be some broken ass combo that can come from this. I hope the battlecries are triggered in order so you can strategically play out your cards/deck to maximize this effect.

wormie · Apr 8, 2018

No way at that shaman card. Jade shaman?

Aaubert · Apr 8, 2018

Ravishing said:
From Reddit: (Not on Hearthpwn yet, dunno if these are real yet)

If real....
Prince Liam is a nice way to prevent many "bad" draws after you get past turn 2-3. How many 1-cost will Paladin play though. It's cute, but the "dude deck" is dying and I'm seeing just the 1/1 taunt as the main 1-drop. Handbuff also dies with rotation. I'm skeptical that this sees much play.

Shudderwock will be insane. I hope his effect isn't canceled if he's killed/evolved. Battlecries can do so much. I easily see this in an evolve deck. He can summon a 2/3 taunt then evolveX2 himself+ the taunt, among other things. I'm sure there will be some broken ass combo that can come from this. I hope the battlecries are triggered in order so you can strategically play out your cards/deck to maximize this effect.

Maybe I'm being too hopeful, but Shudderwock feels to me like the devs learned a lesson from Yogg. The power of the effect is cool and exciting - but the randomness was too problematic. This one maintains that same idea, but makes the randomness much more controllable and able to be framed by the conditions that you choose to set up. It will probably mostly be used for one or two very specific battlecries that are only put in the deck for this specific purpose (like how no one uses spiteful for anything other than spiteful decks)... but it feels like progress.

ON THE OTHER HAND:

....yes, I'm aware of all the dumb new random cards. =/

Kuro · Apr 8, 2018

Obviously you're supposed to play the shitty elemental that reduces the cost of other elementals by 1 at some point before, then play the 2 drop shitty Brann Elemental +that dude on the same turn and get ALL THE BATTLECRIES.

Quineloe · Apr 8, 2018

Lightning Lord Rule said:
Looks pretty good to me. 2/2 is weak for 4 mana, but puts a 3 cost secret into play, which has the potential to be really good (Discover mechanic implies it will be mage only secrets, not any class).

Even more evidence for a spiteful mage archetype incoming.

This is a froglok hydrologist except you get to play the secret for free right away. This is an utterly ridiculous card. It's "discover a secret" and then play it so your opponent can't know from previous secrets what it is, which is far more threatening with the mage secrets than the shitty paladin ones and for the remaining 1 mana it puts a 2/2 on the board.

wormie said:
No way at that shaman card. Jade shaman?

Jade is rotating, and wild jade shaman isn't even a good deck. This one card won't save it.

slippery · Apr 8, 2018

I think the Mage secret guy is likely to be nuts, also the reason Ice Block is going HoF

Quineloe · Apr 8, 2018

If Shudderwock is played after Chain gang, what minion with that battlecry summon as a copy?

Ravishing · Apr 8, 2018

Quineloe said:
If Shudderwock is played after Chain gang, what minion with that battlecry summon as a copy?

I was seeing this "theorycraft" on reddit too, and I have no idea what they are thinking, but the Battlecry simply states: Summon a 1/1 of all other minions.
So Shudderwock will never copy himself, you would just get another 1/1 chain gang with battlecry to summon a 2/3.

Right now my ideal battlecries to fit in a deck with Shudderwock are:

2x Witch's Apprentice
2x Stonehill Defender
2x Twilight Drake
2x Primordial Drake
1x Lone Champion

== Draw 4 cards, Deal 4 damage to all other minions, give yourself Taunt, Divine Shield, and 8+ health

Other nice but not necessary:
Chain gang for an extra 2/3 taunt x2
Kalimos for an Evocation (if you can choose then is a must play)
Firefly for x2 more cards which grants 2 more health to himself
Hot spring guardian for a chance to heal 3-6.

I see the card as a "draw/create card + board clear" minion.

Trying to return him or evolve a board, etc, seem too janky.

Ravishing · Apr 8, 2018

Lightning Lord Rule · Apr 8, 2018

Firebat had a vid about a "Hand Druid" archetype being a thing going forward. Looks like these cards confirm that.

zzeris · Apr 8, 2018

Witchwood piper looks really interesting. A copy in resurrect priest helps find Barnes. Will definitely experiment with in standard.

Ravishing · Apr 8, 2018

zzeris said:
Witchwood piper looks really interesting. A copy in resurrect priest helps find Barnes. Will definitely experiment with in standard.

And then Barnes summons a 1/1 witchwood piper

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