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I think it'll be like the other mobas where there will be staples until some high level players pick those heroes and change the meta.How is the overall hero diversity in ranked play - does it still seem like most players own the basic cheapest 10 more or less? Its one of the things I'm most curious about if anyone has an opinion or data. Even just anecdotal is good enough for now.
I wouldn't spend much time on Abathur this patch. The nerfs hit him way too hard. That being said, if you do play him you'd probably want to pair it up with a Zeratul (zeratul + abathur hat is still decently strong roam), or a Kerrigan (clone Kerrigan is the best use of ultimate evolution in the game). Problem of course being that both Kerrigan/Zeratul are two of the highest skill cap heroes in the game, and in Kerrigan's case the Abathur player would also have to be competent at everything Kerrigan does.I have a feeling that the overall effect of a well played Abathur makes up for a body. Soaking up two lanes of xp while a shitty teamfight is going on, or one lane + being in the team fight is a little extra. The increased passive lane pressure with a well placed body for locusts helps over time. I think the cumulative effect over all makes up for it and could win you the game sometimes.
Dude does need some tweaks though, that's for sure. He isn't perfect or god tier, but I don't think he's useless either.
I wouldn't underestimate top level players and how much we actually test stuff out. Lots of people want shitty heroes like Gazlowe/Murky to be useful because they're still favorite niche picks of players when they're fucking around. Unfortunately, there is a decent portion of heroes that are simply complete shit regardless of the map. Gazlowe is ass because Heroes is a game of mobility and rotations - even on maps like Sky Temple.It will just take time and people at the higher levels proving that some heroes are better than popular perception. Just like Dota and LoL, imo.
HuehuehueMalfurion is growing on me.
It is pretty non-existant as far as diversity, but I wouldn't say ppl just own the basic 10 cheapest heroes. Stitches is first picked in probably 90% of matches and then you see a lot of etc because their only other warrior is stitches, but outside of that you see mostly just the strongest considered meta picks.How is the overall hero diversity in ranked play - does it still seem like most players own the basic cheapest 10 more or less? Its one of the things I'm most curious about if anyone has an opinion or data. Even just anecdotal is good enough for now.
You must not group with the same bad Vallas I play with and against. So many offensive vaults and getting caught completely out of position. Initiating team fights. You name it. I find playing her even at an average level if you don't actually grasp the fundamentals of how to play a super squishy ranged assassin is still rough.I wouldn't spend much time on Abathur this patch. The nerfs hit him way too hard. That being said, if you do play him you'd probably want to pair it up with a Zeratul (zeratul + abathur hat is still decently strong roam), or a Kerrigan (clone Kerrigan is the best use of ultimate evolution in the game). Problem of course being that both Kerrigan/Zeratul are two of the highest skill cap heroes in the game, and in Kerrigan's case the Abathur player would also have to be competent at everything Kerrigan does.
On a side note, the one thing that can't be overstated enough is that Valla is far and away the best hero for new people in the game to play. Provided you go the multishot build, she's almost impossible to screw up. Spam W on cooldown, mix in safe auto attacks, and press R when 3 heroes are barely within max range of your strafe. It's not that there isn't a big difference between a top tier Valla and an average valla (there is), but an average Valla gets way more contribution out of her play than an average anything else.
Multishot build for reference -Heroes of the Storm (Heroes) Builds Guides, wiki, database and forums. Heroes Hero Build Guides on HeroesFire Wiki!
Right and being better than the other team means knowing when to teamfight. Which was my point in regards to your hammer comments.If you're responding to ZP (or me? I don't know) he is oft referring to high level matches not QM matches that involve a Murky. You can make almost any combination of any heroes work if you're just plain better than the other team.
Decent guide on Zeratul. A little dated in that cloak was changed to 3 seconds rather than 2 seconds. Another thing is that Zeratul's talents can be pretty situational. For example, level 1 talent, Greater Cleave is okay, but Block can be good depending upon your opponent's composition. Zeratul's talents kinda depend on the situation and there really isn't a clearcut build, imo. The build in the vid is a good start though.Man i suck ass at this game, whenever i look at the tabs i have more take downs but waaay less of everything else. I'm really not use to the moba playstyle of games yet. Zeratul seems like hes a harder character to play though and i can't find a build that i really love yet.
I'm trying to find a void prison build thats more defensive/annoying and then a full on dps burst build but having issues figuring them out heh
I really enjoy this game though, very fun and can't wait for the actual release