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He needs to be locked in a cellar and fed by the amount of words he puts out on the daily.
 
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Son of a Bitch was early for once.

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Nothing really new. People are coming around to the idea that S8 was used as a pilot by GRRM to test Winds of Winter ending.

It was done so poorly and the backlash so great that he shelved it. Insiders now report Winds of Winter was essentially finished prior to S8 airing.

This jives with the twitter gutpunch incident where GRRM started rewriting entire huge sections of the the book (per his own admission) to conform with criticism he was receiving in real-time.
 
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I read/heard this rumor a while back. It is just hard to believe that he could fuck up his own story that badly. Books 1-4 fucking master pieces.
 
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I would argue that if you're focus group testing the plot of your story then you're not really writing anymore. At least not in an artistic way. You can't make art if you're that worried about what people think. Might as well hire a writer's room with one person of every race and LBGTQ+ identity like it's a shitty network TV show at that point.
 
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Master fucking writer doesn't realize that the reason people revolted against S8 wasn't the places people ended up, it was the shitty ass story/ non-reasons that go them to those endpoints. Bran influencing politics through Wierwood visions and green magic sounds terrifying for its in-world consequences; crippled gimp Bran in S8 ending up there and having it be a setup for a shitty ass class joke is lame as fuck.
 
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BrutulTM said:
I would argue that if you're focus group testing the plot of your story then you're not really writing anymore. At least not in an artistic way. You can't make art if you're that worried about what people think. Might as well hire a writer's room with one person of every race and LBGTQ+ identity like it's a shitty network TV show at that point.
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We know from GRRM's statements on Twitter that is exactly how he writes these days. He self-admitted he was undergoing rewrites due to backlash over the way women were portrayed in the other books. He got attacked by an online mob, leading to the infamous "gutpunch" incident where he nearly threw the entire Winds of Winter away.

He cares a great deal about what people think, including anonymous trolls on X.
 
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