IT/Software career thread: Invert binary trees for dollars.

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Selfish mini tangent: what does this stuff look like? As I sit here perusing the internet during work hours, I can't help but think, do I have bad work ethics?
I dunno, do you get your assigned shit done? I don't care if you're beating off in your office if you've done everything I've asked you to.
 
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I dunno, do you get your assigned shit done? I don't care if you're beating off in your office if you've done everything I've asked you to.
How did you know I was beating off?

Of course I get my assignments done. And if not, I have succinct documented reasons why not during iteration retrospective. That seems a bit beyond bad work ethic if they aren't doing that. That should result in termination. Which, as I type this, I'm reminded of my subordinate that I've been trying to get rid of for years.

Fair enough.
 
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moonarchia

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How did you know I was beating off?

Of course I get my assignments done. And if not, I have succinct documented reasons why not during iteration retrospective. That seems a bit beyond bad work ethic if they aren't doing that. That should result in termination. Which, as I type this, I'm reminded of my subordinate that I've been trying to get rid of for years.

Fair enough.
Where else would you beat off if not at work?
 
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Work ethic is a big thing I'm noticing too.

We have a newer engineer that just can't get a single thing done. He doesn't ask for help either, so he rolls into our daily meeting and his status is "I tried this <simple thing that took 5 minutes>."

He's the first person I actually have ever had to talk to my manager about. Like... What is this dude doing all day. I don't have time to be on him all day either. There has to be some motivation and some self starter behavior. I'm just not seeing it from new engineers.

Not saying I'm a great engineer myself, but I remember being in his position and just constantly trying to prove myself to everyone. I got dressed down by a couple engineers too and just took it as a lesson. I hate being an old man about this stuff but they really aren't built the same anymore
 

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As someone who pulled off 2 technically full time jobs for years... and still dicked off during the day a lot. 99% of work ethic is just always showing up and doggedly pursuing stuff. The guy I've been mentoring the past few years is a retard but he's learning that at least. Do not come to me unless you have tried everything you can think of and it still doesn't work. That is how you improve. I've gotten on his case for half assed things many times and he thankfully doesn't take it like a pussy. As I usually just say that if I didn't care and wanted to see you fail I would never talk to you at all and let it happen.

I was completing all of my tasks though. The sheer volume of tasks just made it very time consuming. Even if something wasn't challenging per se it could still take several hours to accomplish it. Last few months have felt like I've been on vacation all day at work just having half the workload in general.

Story points are retarded but they kind of work. At both places I had an average of 15 story points every two weeks. The general use of them was very similar with 1,2,3,5,8,13.
 
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Over the years I've found that a large amount of any company's work force is filled with people that won't do anything unless they feel like they HAVE to do that thing. And the people that are doing their job without HAVING to be told when and how to do their job, inevitably and obviously become aggravated with the former.

In other words, some people take themselves and their careers seriously, and others don't. Most, it seems, don't.
 

Kithani

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Over the years I've found that a large amount of any company's work force is filled with people that won't do anything unless they feel like they HAVE to do that thing. And the people that are doing their job without HAVING to be told when and how to do their job, inevitably and obviously become aggravated with the former.

In other words, some people take themselves and their careers seriously, and others don't. Most, it seems, don't.
This isn’t just the workforce it is human civilization at large IMO and TBH one of the weak points of democracy
 

moonarchia

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This isn’t just the workforce it is human civilization at large IMO and TBH one of the weak points of democracy
It was the Protestant work ethic that built our nation. The day we stopped drilling that into everyone was the day we started to decline.
 

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I have no memory of posting this.

So while most people are going with more and more powerful tools, AI etc, I'm kind of devolving back to VI or at least vim.

Do any of you eschew IDEs in favour of old vim or emacs or something?

It seems really good for plain old c. You can :term and split the screen in half and do like man 3 printf for whatever c function you want to call etc.
I have worn two hats for probably over a decade now, a Mainframe ISPF and Visual Studio

…There is no comparison, syntax errors resolved prior to even compiling? Intellesense? A debugger that was built for the language from the get go? We had a bug with our CA debugger, it took an almost a year to get fixed , had to bring in CA developers to do a hard coded fix or something, couldn’t debug any of our internal logic right in the middle of a huge rewrite project, I think it just broke again actually….
 

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I am unfortunately in too critical of a position to work 2 jobs. When I was at the company HQ this last week I felt like I had some weird red carpet laid out for me. Probably mentioned it before but I'm so important I got that elusive 30% raise (no title bump though because fuck you noodle). I'm in a very weird spot.

It's a strange feeling having entire events (40+ people attending) moved around specifically because you have another event conflict. I don't know how to reconcile this. Part of me likes it, but also part of me is exhausted constantly.
 

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I don't know how to reconcile this. Part of me likes it, but also part of me is exhausted constantly.
Most likely you're in this weird position that you're technically important, but they want you to keep your title so you aren't more visible to the higher ups, and then put on a leadership/management track--because then they'd have no one doing the actual project work.

Modern office politics are like that. Logged in to our company portal recently for some shit, and my current job title seems to now be "technical architect." Which of course no one told me about.
 

Noodleface

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Most likely you're in this weird position that you're technically important, but they want you to keep your title so you aren't more visible to the higher ups, and then put on a leadership/management track--because then they'd have no one doing the actual project work.

Modern office politics are like that. Logged in to our company portal recently for some shit, and my current job title seems to now be "technical architect." Which of course no one told me about.
It's even weirder because I am super visible to higher ups. Either way I am highly burnt out